<font color='black' size='2' face='Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif'> <div><font style="background-color: transparent;" face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"></font></div> <div style="color: black; font-family: arial,helvetica; font-size: 10pt;"><blockquote style="padding-left: 3px; border-left-color: blue; border-left-width: 2px; border-left-style: solid;"><pre><tt>I learned to go sharp then come back down, except in the high tenor, I seem to here it better coming up to pitch. Thanks, Duaine</tt></pre></blockquote></div> <div></div> <div>Duaine</div> <div> </div> <div>You mean hear it better, :)  You want to pull the string a little bit above the pitch and then bring it down because you want to leave the string and pin in a relaxed position. If you bring it up to pitch, and leave it there, the pin and string will be in a stressed position, and when the pin and string relaxes, it will go down in pitch. Since you're a ETD tuner, you can actually see this happening. </div> <div> </div> <div>To make sure the string will stay where you want it, you should tune the string slightly sharp, and then "set" the pin by jerking the hammer, and "set" the string by giving a sharp blow. It might seem like a lot of work, but this becomes an almost automatic process as you gain experience in tuning. </div> <div> </div> <div>Wim</div> <div style="clear: both;"> <div> </div> </div> <div></div> <div></div> <div style="color: black; font-family: arial,helvetica; font-size: 10pt;">-----Original Message-----<br> From: Duaine Hechler <dahechler@att.net><br> To: pianotech <pianotech@ptg.org><br> Sent: Sun, Jan 20, 2013 1:36 pm<br> Subject: Re: [pianotech] Reducing tuning time (was Re: frustrated)<br> <br> <div style="margin: 0px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, Sans-Serif; font-size: 12px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" id="AOLMsgPart_0_5d3c98bc-4ea1-4099-b155-65e7fe547e55"> <pre style="font-size: 9pt;"><tt>The one thing that, in my last couple of tunings, I am trying to do is to concentrate on - not - going way sharp before honing in on the unisons. I shaved off about 10 minutes, the last couple of times. Do most of you come up to pitch or go sharp then come back down? I learned to go sharp then come back down, except in the high tenor, I seem to here it better coming up to pitch. Thanks, Duaine On 01/12/2013 04:41 PM, Mike Kurta wrote: > I had my wife sew two lengths together. Voila! Now I have only one mute strip to contend with. Length is no > problem, when I put it away I fold it in half length, half again, and lay it in my case. Easy. > Mike Kurta > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* Ron Nossaman <<a href="mailto:rnossaman@cox.net?">mailto:rnossaman@cox.net</a>> > *To:* <a href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">pianotech@ptg.org</a> <<a href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org?">mailto:pianotech@ptg.org</a>> > *Sent:* Saturday, January 12, 2013 9:45 AM > *Subject:* Re: [pianotech] Reducing tuning time (was Re: frustrated) > > On 1/12/2013 8:06 AM, <a href="mailto:tunerboy3@comcast.net">tunerboy3@comcast.net</a> <<a href="mailto:tunerboy3@comcast.net?">mailto:tunerboy3@comcast.net</a>> wrote: > > > You order it like one solid piece, something like 72" or 84" long or > > so, and cut to desired length or, don't cut it at all. I ordered 6 > > or 10 of them so I could experiment with it. I wound up cutting one > > of them down the center all the way and using that one in the treble. > > I cut a strip diagonally down it's length and get two tapered lengths. > Ideal in verticals to get around the dampers in that last section where > there's no room - especially in Baldwins. A full width strip works very > well in the bass, or two of them if one leaks too much. Pearl River > passed out a terrific strip at the convention one year. Thin action > cloth sewed to buckskin (or Ecsaine, but it acts like buckskin). Best > tenor strip I've ever used in grands. I've wished I had managed to get a > couple more, but they were pretty protective of them and they wouldn't > be difficult to make when the one I have gives up the ghost. > > > > I don't now why but string spacing tends to > > be a little greater in the tenor on verticals than in the treble. > > Fan angles, I'd say. I use a narrow strip of thicker action cloth here. > Ron N > -- Duaine Hechler Piano, Player Piano, Pump Organ - Tuning, Servicing & Rebuilding (314) 838-5587 / <a href="mailto:dahechler@att.net">dahechler@att.net</a> / <a href="http://www.hechlerpianoandorgan.com" target="_blank">www.hechlerpianoandorgan.com</a> Home & Business user of Linux - 13 years </tt></pre> </div>  </div> </font>