<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Thanks all round for the recommendations.<div><br></div><div><br></div><div><div>On 2013-01-22, at 17:02, Jon Page wrote:</div><blockquote type="cite"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: monospace; white-space: pre; ">The shanks must be removed from the rail to use the plier </span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: monospace; white-space: pre; ">type extractors so as not to damage the center.</span></blockquote><br></div><div>Jon, with all other pliers tools I know of this is indeed the case.  But the tool I carry gives the user so much control that you can squeeze the hammers off nicely with the flanges screwed to the rail. </div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: monospace; white-space: pre; "><br></span></div><div><br><div> <span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Verdana; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-size: medium; ">Jurgen Goering<br>Piano Forte  <br>(250) 754-2440<br><br><a href="http://www.pianofortesupply.com">www.pianofortesupply.com</a><br><br><br><br><br><br></span> </div> <img id="45858720-09c1-4837-acca-b7c21f1cc98e" height="375" width="500" apple-width="yes" apple-height="yes" src="cid:04133797-B04D-44F4-AB51-B7FD467DD6B2"></div></body></html>