<html xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:w="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:m="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/2004/12/omml" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40"><head><meta http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=utf-8"><meta name=Generator content="Microsoft Word 12 (filtered medium)"><style></style></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Oh, was it a Hamilton? Missed that. That might change my opinion. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>David Love<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>www.davidlovepianos.com<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Dale Erwin<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, January 23, 2013 11:45 AM<br><b>To:</b> pianotech@ptg.org<br><b>Subject:</b> [pianotech] Fwd: Ronsen Hammers<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div id="AOLMsgPart_1_0a871537-54d3-4906-8d7c-a707c2e28df9"><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:navy'>David has it right here. <br> Samples for the piano and the acoustic environment are always a safe bet.  What A Baldwin Hamilton DOES NOT NEED is a stiffer hammer but less stiff. Not soft but not overly stiff. My goal; would be to render mute the obnoxious whining from the funky string scaling. <o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:mediumblue'>Dale Erwin R.P.T.<br></span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:black'>Ronsen piano hammers</span><i><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:darkgreen'><br></span></i><i><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:crimson'>Phone: 209-577-8397</span></i><i><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:darkgreen'><br></span></i><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:darkgreen'><br><tt> </tt></span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:navy'><br><tt>  </tt></span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:navy'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>-----Original Message-----<br>From: David Love <<a href="mailto:davidlovepianos@comcast.net">davidlovepianos@comcast.net</a>><br>To: pianotech <<a href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">pianotech@ptg.org</a>><br>Sent: Wed, Jan 23, 2013 8:29 am<br>Subject: Re: [pianotech] Ronsen Hammers<o:p></o:p></span></p><div id="AOLMsgPart_1_0d1f918a-07a6-44ae-a31f-9757db94a093"><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>You have to judge the piano on its own merit first.  Many Baldwin scales tend to be somewhat higher tension with slightly heavier soundboards.  Given reasonable soundboard health I find that they sometimes want a slightly firmer hammer.  Some Abel hammers may be well suited to the task (there are many different Abel hammers as well).  Some Ronsen hammers may be not suited to the task and may end up requiring enough lacquer as to suggest that another choice might have been better to start with.  VFG felt is firmer but has its own characteristics that are somewhat different from, say, Weickert felt (different process).   You may have other criteria as well that will drive the choice in one direction or another.  <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Sample, sample, sample.  Did I say sample?    Hammer recommendations without knowing all the details of the piano and it’s circumstances are relatively meaningless.  Of course Ronsen makes good hammers, so does Abel and so does Renner.  You have to look beyond that to determine which hammer will best suit the job.  <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>David Love<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><a href="http://www.davidlovepianos.com" target="_blank">www.davidlovepianos.com</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> <a href="mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org">pianotech-bounces@ptg.org</a> [<a href="mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org?">mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Al Guecia/Allied PianoCraft<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, January 23, 2013 4:18 AM<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:joegarrett@earthlink.net">joegarrett@earthlink.net</a>; <a href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">pianotech@ptg.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [pianotech] Ronsen Hammers<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>You've got that right Joe! We recognized right from the start that Ronsen made the best hammers ever! And yes, he'll make them exactly how you ask.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span class=apple-style-span><i><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Al -</span></i></span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><i><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>High Point, NC</span></i><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>On Jan 22, 2013, at 8:22 PM, Joseph Garrett <<a href="mailto:joegarrett@earthlink.net">joegarrett@earthlink.net</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Dave said:<br>"For some reason I see that more often in Baldwin pianos than any other,<br>they don't seem to like the Louisiana heat and humidity. I really like the<br>Ronsens, you can always add a little lacquer under the strike point if the<br>top needs perking up."<br><br>Dave, et al,<br>You need to be more specific when discussing Ronsen Hammers and what you<br>need to do to them!(Or any other brand, for that matter.<G>)<br>At last count, Ronsen offers 4 different types of felt! Then, to add to<br>the mix, you can ask Ray to press them in specific ways. So, there are many<br>different choices when using Ronsen Hammers! It's one of several reasons<br>I've been using them since the 70's!!!<G> I'm one satisfied customer and a<br>big fan of Ronsens.<br>Of course, if your favorite hammer is another company and they work for<br>you,....great. It's what you want in tone and what you get used to. "adding<br>lacquer" is not good advice imo.<br>Best,<br>Joe<br><br><br>Joe Garrett, R.P.T.<br>Captain of the Tool Police<br>Squares R I<br><a href="http://gpianoworks.com/" target="_blank">http://gpianoworks.com/</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></body></html>