<table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0"><tr><td valign="top" style="font: inherit;"><div>At the very least, "string pluckers" should only be able to use their hands ( no "implements of destruction") and these should be gloved. And all other meddling ( such as the insertion of objects between strings - bass strings, at least) should be banned. Deviations from such proscriptions should be subject to fines and/or remittance for identified suspected damages. Thumpe</div></td></tr></table> <div id="_origMsg_"> <div style="font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif:font-size:10pt"> <div style="font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt"> <hr size="1"> From: Bruce Gibson Piano Technician <bruce@bgpianotech.com>; To: <pianotech@ptg.org>; Subject: [pianotech] Beyonce Sent: Wed, Feb 20, 2013 5:04:36 AM <table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0"> <tbody> <tr> <td valign="top" style="font:inherit;"><div>So, who was the piano tech tuning the piano for Beyonce in her recent HBO documentary? Bruce Gibson Piano Technician Serving the Music Community since 1984 Call or Text: <a rel="nofollow">1.306.221.3786</a> Toll Free: <a rel="nofollow">1.877.652.3571</a> Email: <a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:bruce@bgpianotech.com" target="_blank" href="javascript:return">bruce@bgpianotech.com</a> Website: <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://www.bgpianotech.com">www.bgpianotech.com</a> P.O. Box <a rel="nofollow">21063</a> Saskatoon, SK S7H 5N9 Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S3 -----Original Message----- From: pianotech-request@ptg.org To: pianotech@ptg.org Sent: Tue, 19 Feb 2013 8:24 PM Subject: pianotech Digest, Vol 52, Issue 71 </div>Send pianotech mailing list submissions to 	<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org" target="_blank" href="javascript:return">pianotech@ptg.org</a>  To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit 	<a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives">https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives</a> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to 	<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:pianotech-request@ptg.org" target="_blank" href="javascript:return">pianotech-request@ptg.org</a>  You can reach the person managing the list at 	<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:pianotech-owner@ptg.org" target="_blank" href="javascript:return">pianotech-owner@ptg.org</a>  When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of pianotech digest..."   Today's Topics:     1. Re: Prepared frickin'piano and damaged bass strings (David Love)    2. Re: prepared frickin' piano, etc. (Alan Eder)    3. Re: First Pinbock (Noah Frere)   ----------------------------------------------------------------------  Message: 1 Date: Tue, 19 Feb <a rel="nofollow">2013 16</a>:12:<a rel="nofollow">51 -0800</a> From: "David Love" <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:davidlovepianos@comcast.net" target="_blank" href="javascript:return">davidlovepianos@comcast.net</a>> To: <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org" target="_blank" href="javascript:return">pianotech@ptg.org</a>> Subject: Re: [pianotech] Prepared frickin'piano and damaged bass 	strings Message-ID: <034f01ce0eff$05f<a rel="nofollow">36690</a>$11da33b0$@net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"  Yes, it was communicated.  A contract was signed in which a no prepared or hands on strings clause is included.  This was a group and several pianists were included so the director of the organization signed off on it.  I'm letting the venue handle collection aspects.  Fortunately, this was a relatively new set of strings and so the specs are readily available so replacement will be easy.  Still there is cost and time involved in replacement and settling of the new strings.     It's all getting handled but just thought I'd throw it out there as a precautionary note.  I'm always concerned when I hear "prepared piano" and the several concert venues I deal with have instructions that I am to be informed if there is something like that on the program so that I can have some say on whether and how it's done.       David Love  <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://www.davidlovepianos.com">www.davidlovepianos.com</a>     From: <a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org" target="_blank" href="javascript:return">pianotech-bounces@ptg.org</a> [mailto:<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org" target="_blank" href="javascript:return">pianotech-bounces@ptg.org</a>] On Behalf Of Gene Nelson Sent: Tuesday, February 19, <a rel="nofollow">2013 9</a>:45 AM To: <a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org" target="_blank" href="javascript:return">pianotech@ptg.org</a> Subject: Re: [pianotech] Prepared frickin'piano and damaged bass strings     Curious if there is any way to trace back to find out if the policy was or was not communicated to the pianist?  Possibly the pianist has liability insurance.  I would really like to avoid a similar situation at the venue I work.  I have dealt with string pluckers at the university where I worked years ago but it has not come up here yet.  Your experience is the ultimate.  Gene       _____    From: <a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org" target="_blank" href="javascript:return">pianotech-bounces@ptg.org</a> [mailto:<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org" target="_blank" href="javascript:return">pianotech-bounces@ptg.org</a>] On Behalf Of Euphonious Thumpe Sent: Tuesday, February 19, <a rel="nofollow">2013 9</a>:26 AM To: <a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org" target="_blank" href="javascript:return">pianotech@ptg.org</a> Subject: Re: [pianotech] Prepared frickin'piano and damaged bass strings      David, I agree with you 100%! And when you hear the dread words "World Premier" preceding a symphony orchestra broadcast on NPR these days, have your hand ready to turn it off, or suffer! (Many "Serious Music" composers now have the same cacophonous malevolence toward humanity as "punk rockers", apparently. Perhaps "getting back" at everyone, because, despite high grades, they couldn't get a date in High School.)  Thumpe       _____    From: David Love <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:davidlovepianos@comcast.net" target="_blank" href="javascript:return">davidlovepianos@comcast.net</a>>;  To: <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org" target="_blank" href="javascript:return">pianotech@ptg.org</a>>;  Subject: [pianotech] Prepared frickin'piano and damaged bass strings  Sent: Tue, Feb 19, <a rel="nofollow">2013 5</a>:13:25 PM    Just came back to a piano that I service regularly after a prepared piano piece in which six bass strings (3 pairs of bichords) were damaged apparently by the pianist being called upon to scrape something up and down the length of the several pairs of strings.  Of course, the windings are now rattling.    The directors of this venue have issued previously a "no prepared piano" and "no reaching in" rule in order to avoid just this type of thing however it apparently fell on deaf (appropriate considering the nature of the music--ok cheap shot) ears.    Just an FYI and a bit of vent.  ^%&*#$%&($)%*($)^&(#$)  David Love <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://www.davidlovepianos.com">www.davidlovepianos.com</a>       -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <<a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="https://www.moypiano.com/ptg/pianotech.php/attachments/20130219/f00852fc/attachment-0001.htm">https://www.moypiano.com/ptg/pianotech.php/attachments/20130219/f00852fc/attachment-0001.htm</a>>  ------------------------------  Message: 2 Date: Tue, 19 Feb <a rel="nofollow">2013 19</a>:23:<a rel="nofollow">42 -0500</a> (EST) From: Alan Eder <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:reggaepass@aol.com" target="_blank" href="javascript:return">reggaepass@aol.com</a>> To: <a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org" target="_blank" href="javascript:return">pianotech@ptg.org</a> Subject: Re: [pianotech] prepared frickin' piano, etc. Message-ID: <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:8CFDD17ABE41AAF-FB4-23441@webmail-d004.sysops.aol.com" target="_blank" href="javascript:return">8CFDD17ABE41AAF-FB4-23441@webmail-d004.sysops.aol.com</a>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"       I don't believe the piece has reached the public domain.   May it never, until it can re played without harm to the instrument.   Alan Eder    -----Original Message----- From: David Love <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:davidlovepianos@comcast.net" target="_blank" href="javascript:return">davidlovepianos@comcast.net</a>> To: pianotech <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org" target="_blank" href="javascript:return">pianotech@ptg.org</a>> Sent: Tue, Feb 19, <a rel="nofollow">2013 4</a>:03 pm Subject: Re: [pianotech] prepared frickin' piano, etc.   Yes, the people who rented the space will be billed.  In answer to Ed Foote's question, I don't know the name or composer of the piece.  I think it was a local teacher's composition and her student(s) who "played" it.  I don't believe the piece has reached the public domain.    David Love <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://www.davidlovepianos.com">www.davidlovepianos.com</a>   David, I truly sympathize with that! Utterly stupid things happen, when stupid people are involved! Hopefully, the "player", (I'll not call him a Pianist), will have to pay for them! If not, then someone needs to grow a backbone, imo. Sheesh! Joe     Joe Garrett, R.P.T. Captain of the Tool Police Squares R I <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://gpianoworks.com">http://gpianoworks.com</a>/     -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <<a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="https://www.moypiano.com/ptg/pianotech.php/attachments/20130219/10b02538/attachment-0001.htm">https://www.moypiano.com/ptg/pianotech.php/attachments/20130219/10b02538/attachment-0001.htm</a>>  ------------------------------  Message: 3 Date: Tue, 19 Feb <a rel="nofollow">2013 21</a>:17:<a rel="nofollow">39 -0500</a> From: Noah Frere <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:noahfrere@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="javascript:return">noahfrere@gmail.com</a>> To: <a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org" target="_blank" href="javascript:return">pianotech@ptg.org</a> Subject: Re: [pianotech] First Pinbock Message-ID: 	<CABKkihoqqqSrwEZ=<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:_3dg-+2sk4Jpu6t9n_1drDEi0KFGWq+bCg@mail.gmail.com" target="_blank" href="javascript:return">_3dg-+2sk4Jpu6t9n_1drDEi0KFGWq+bCg@mail.gmail.com</a>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-<a rel="nofollow">8859-1</a>"  Okay, I've got the plate removed, and the pinblock too now. Turns out there is a plate flange. So I think we've got a plan: 1) strengthen the heck out of the case. 2) Replace the pinblock. Easy ;) I've cleaned up most of the epoxy goop that some jerk put in there (gosh i wonder who THAT was?). BTW the eopxy was West Systems, but I guess I didn't use any filler. I'll order some High Density or Colloidal filler for the fitting. The pinblock measures just under 38"x 8" and is 1.5" thick. I'd like to use the most eco-friendly wood possible while still holding up under the tension for a few decades. Any suggestions? Wouldn't it be great to reclaim some used hardwood? Somebody should do that. I don't know if that's possible though given the integrity needed for the pinblock. When I replace a soundboard someday I'd like to try the green SB that the Canadians were supposedly experimenting with a couple/few years ago. However, when I asked them about it a few months ago I got no response. If anyone wants to send me a pinblock from reclaimed hardwood and can guarantee it's integrity, for a reasonable price, I would be willing to pay higher than what Delignit or Schaff, etc. goes for. This is to be an eco-friendly piano, after all. The felt will come from either recycled or upcycled materials as much as possible. Et cetera,[image: Inline image 1] The gaps at the top of the piano were filled with square blocks. However, they were glued to the top of the piano, and the only way to remove the top was to bust it out, which took the 2 blocks you see missing here out. I will of course fill in these gaps. I kind of like the idea of creating a new back from strong beech plywood or something with holes cut out for the handles and soundboard. However, as far as filling in these gaps first: Terry said: " However, I'd fill the gaps with chunks of good strong hardwood. Hard maple is fine, but there are also a slew of ring-porous hardwoods that are very epoxy-bonding-friendly - white ash, red oak, etc.  I would remove the 3/4" (or so) hardwood (I presume) strip on the very back top of the piano, cut hardwood blocks to fill the gaps between the posts, drill holes (1" or so) in the ends of the blocks (two or three) and install hardwood dowels in the block end holes (1" red oak are commonly available and great for this application), then I'd drill/chisel/ poke/beat/chop/rout out holes in the side/rear of the post such that you can install the filler blocks, with the dowels sticking out the sides, between the posts from the rear." I am afraid I have read this may times and still don't get it. Terry, would it be possible to explain this another way? or draw a picture? or perhaps over the phone... -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <<a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="https://www.moypiano.com/ptg/pianotech.php/attachments/20130219/0546bc73/attachment.htm">https://www.moypiano.com/ptg/pianotech.php/attachments/20130219/0546bc73/attachment.htm</a>> -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: image/jpeg Size: <a rel="nofollow">45855</a> bytes Desc: not available URL: <<a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="https://www.moypiano.com/ptg/pianotech.php/attachments/20130219/0546bc73/attachment.jpeg">https://www.moypiano.com/ptg/pianotech.php/attachments/20130219/0546bc73/attachment.jpeg</a>>  ------------------------------  _______________________________________________ pianotech mailing list <a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org" target="_blank" href="javascript:return">pianotech@ptg.org</a> <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives">https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives</a>   End of pianotech Digest, Vol 52, Issue 71 ***************************************** </td> </tr> </tbody> </table> </div> </div> </div>