<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML xmlns="http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40" xmlns:v = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:o = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:w = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:m = "http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/2004/12/omml"><HEAD> <META content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1" http-equiv=Content-Type> <META name=GENERATOR content="MSHTML 8.00.6001.19400"> <STYLE>@font-face { font-family: Helvetica; } @font-face { font-family: Helvetica; } @font-face { font-family: Calibri; } @font-face { font-family: Tahoma; } @font-face { font-family: Consolas; } @font-face { font-family: Arial Black; } @font-face { font-family: Arial Narrow; } @font-face { font-family: Comic Sans MS; } @font-face { font-family: 'Lucida Calligraphy'; } @page WordSection1 {size: 8.5in 11.0in; margin: 1.0in 1.0in 1.0in 1.0in; } P.MsoNormal { MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman","serif"; FONT-SIZE: 12pt } LI.MsoNormal { MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman","serif"; FONT-SIZE: 12pt } DIV.MsoNormal { MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman","serif"; FONT-SIZE: 12pt } A:link { COLOR: blue; TEXT-DECORATION: underline; mso-style-priority: 99 } SPAN.MsoHyperlink { COLOR: blue; TEXT-DECORATION: underline; mso-style-priority: 99 } A:visited { COLOR: purple; TEXT-DECORATION: underline; mso-style-priority: 99 } SPAN.MsoHyperlinkFollowed { COLOR: purple; TEXT-DECORATION: underline; mso-style-priority: 99 } PRE { MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Courier New"; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; mso-style-priority: 99; mso-style-link: "HTML Preformatted Char" } TT { FONT-FAMILY: "Courier New"; mso-style-priority: 99 } P.MsoAcetate { MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Tahoma","sans-serif"; FONT-SIZE: 8pt; mso-style-priority: 99; mso-style-link: "Balloon Text Char" } LI.MsoAcetate { MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Tahoma","sans-serif"; FONT-SIZE: 8pt; mso-style-priority: 99; mso-style-link: "Balloon Text Char" } DIV.MsoAcetate { MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Tahoma","sans-serif"; FONT-SIZE: 8pt; mso-style-priority: 99; mso-style-link: "Balloon Text Char" } SPAN.apple-style-span { mso-style-name: apple-style-span } SPAN.HTMLPreformattedChar { FONT-FAMILY: Consolas; mso-style-priority: 99; mso-style-link: "HTML Preformatted"; mso-style-name: "HTML Preformatted Char" } SPAN.EmailStyle21 { FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"; COLOR: #1f497d; mso-style-type: personal-reply } SPAN.BalloonTextChar { FONT-FAMILY: "Tahoma","sans-serif"; mso-style-priority: 99; mso-style-link: "Balloon Text"; mso-style-name: "Balloon Text Char" } .MsoChpDefault { mso-style-type: export-only } DIV.WordSection1 { page: WordSection1 } </STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY lang=EN-US link=blue bgColor=#ffffff vLink=purple> <DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>I am not a member of the PTG and thus my comments may be disregarded.  I just wonder why change something that isn't broken.  James Dally MPT</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px" dir=ltr> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=phil@emvkeys.ca href="mailto:phil@emvkeys.ca">Phil- EMVKEYS</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=pianotech@ptg.org href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">pianotech@ptg.org</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, February 25, 2013 6:18 PM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [pianotech] Protest the loss of PianoTech by responding</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV class=WordSection1> <P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">To the powers that have decided to end pianotech, this is my formal expression of support for the existing pianotech list and of my desire for it to remain as-is. Pianotech has been the single most significant, useful and helpful element of my association with PTG. I have examined the alternatives and have found that they are not at all a satisfactory replacement of the simple, fast and concise delivery that is the pianotech list. This is my public vote of support in favor of retaining the list as it is and my personal rejection of the powers’ decision to end it on April 1, 2013<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial Black','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Phil Manning</SPAN><B><I><SPAN style="COLOR: #c00000"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></I></B></P> <P class=MsoNormal><B><I><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #c00000; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Artist Piano Care</SPAN></I></B><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial Black','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial Narrow','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><A href="http://www.artistpianocare.ca">www.artistpianocare.ca</A><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial Narrow','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">416.907.3562<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P> <DIV style="BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none; BORDER-LEFT: medium none; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; PADDING-LEFT: 0in; PADDING-RIGHT: 0in; BORDER-TOP: #b5c4df 1pt solid; BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; PADDING-TOP: 3pt"> <P class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">From:</SPAN></B><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Dale Erwin<BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, February 25, 2013 5:55 PM<BR><B>To:</B> pianotech@ptg.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [pianotech] Protest the loss of PianoTech by responding<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV> <P class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></P> <P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 13.5pt">Dear list colleagues</SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P> <DIV> <P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P></DIV> <DIV> <P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 13.5pt"> I would like to </SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 18pt">seriously  ask every looker, every poster, be they regular</SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 13.5pt"> or occasional posters to send an e-mail voice of support to this list IMMEDIATELY. A vote of support to retain this forum. Hopefully your voices can be heard at the home office. If that doesn't work you can vote with your wallet.</SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV> <DIV> <P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 13.5pt">Dale</SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV> <DIV> <P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P> <DIV> <P style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt" class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'; COLOR: mediumblue; FONT-SIZE: 7.5pt">Dale Erwin R.P.T.<BR></SPAN></B><B><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'; COLOR: green; FONT-SIZE: 7.5pt">Erwin's Piano Restoration Inc.</SPAN></B><B><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'; COLOR: mediumblue; FONT-SIZE: 7.5pt"><BR></SPAN></B><B><I><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 7.5pt">Mason & Hamlin/Steinway/U.S. pianos<BR></SPAN></I></B><B><I><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'; COLOR: cornflowerblue; FONT-SIZE: 7.5pt"><A href="http://www.Erwinspiano.com">www.Erwinspiano.com</A></SPAN></I></B><B><I><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'; COLOR: darkgreen; FONT-SIZE: 7.5pt"><BR></SPAN></I></B><B><I><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'; COLOR: crimson; FONT-SIZE: 7.5pt">Phone: 209-577-8397</SPAN></I></B><B><I><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'; COLOR: darkgreen; FONT-SIZE: 7.5pt"><BR></SPAN></I></B><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'; COLOR: darkgreen; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><BR><TT> </TT></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><BR><TT>  </TT></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV> <P style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt" class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P> <DIV> <P style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt" class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">-----Original Message-----<BR>From: Al Guecia/Allied PianoCraft <<A href="mailto:alliedpianocraft@hotmail.com">alliedpianocraft@hotmail.com</A>><BR>To: pianotech <<A href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">pianotech@ptg.org</A>><BR>Sent: Mon, Feb 25, 2013 10:16 am<BR>Subject: Re: [pianotech] Say goodbyebye Folks<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P> <DIV id=AOLMsgPart_1_ada5e0c8-154c-4ed5-8847-c794dd27ec53> <P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">The PTG is like any other organization that gets to big. It becomes self serving and no longer serves those who put it in place. <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P> <DIV> <P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P> <DIV> <DIV> <DIV> <DIV> <DIV> <DIV> <DIV> <P class=MsoNormal><SPAN class=apple-style-span><I><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: '; FONT-SIZE: 13.5pt" Calligraphy??,?serif?;color:black? Lucida>Al -</SPAN></I></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 13.5pt"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV> <DIV> <P class=MsoNormal><I><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: '; FONT-SIZE: 13.5pt" Calligraphy??,?serif?;color:black? Lucida>High Point, NC</SPAN></I><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 13.5pt"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV></DIV> <P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 13.5pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV></DIV> <P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P></DIV> <P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P> <DIV> <DIV> <P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">On Feb 25, 2013, at 12:59 PM, Alan Eder <<A href="mailto:reggaepass@aol.com">reggaepass@aol.com</A>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV> <P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><BR>As yet another long-time dues-paying and fully enfranchised member of PTG, I just wanted to add my voice to the growing chorus of those of us who find this list both extremely valuable and handy and think it would be the height of irony for our organization to jettison what is for many the single most valuable tool we have towards furthering our professional development in real-time and on a day-to-day basis. I, for one, like receiving all posts and deciding what to read, what to save for a "rainy day," and to delete right away. I want to underscore an important point that someone else made against sub-forums: I peruse pianotech the way I choose which classes to attend at a convention, which is partially by subject, but largely by who is putting forth the information. Yes, there are certain posters whose words I am ALWAYS interested in reading, regardless of the subject matter, and others who are, shall we say, at the other end of the desirability spectrum.  <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P> <DIV> <P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P></DIV> <DIV> <P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">My two cents, FWIW,<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV> <DIV> <P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P></DIV> <DIV> <P style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt" class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Alan Eder<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P> <DIV> <P style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt" class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Helvetica','sans-serif'; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">-----Original Message-----<BR>From: David Love <<A href="mailto:davidlovepianos@comcast.net">davidlovepianos@comcast.net</A>><BR>To: pianotech <<A href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">pianotech@ptg.org</A>><BR>Sent: Mon, Feb 25, 2013 9:43 am<BR>Subject: Re: [pianotech] Say goodbyebye Folks<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P> <DIV id=AOLMsgPart_0_d21e0668-9da1-4de6-9623-ea765ca22d4d><PRE style="BACKGROUND: white"><TT><SPAN style="COLOR: black">I agree with many other comments that the problems with the new list are<o:p></o:p></SPAN></TT></PRE><PRE style="BACKGROUND: white"><TT><SPAN style="COLOR: black">primarily the user friendliness (takes too long), posting photo problems,<o:p></o:p></SPAN></TT></PRE><PRE style="BACKGROUND: white"><TT><SPAN style="COLOR: black">and the fractured aspect of the various communities and associated cross<o:p></o:p></SPAN></TT></PRE><PRE style="BACKGROUND: white"><TT><SPAN style="COLOR: black">posting issues.  Looking for various other lists to subscribe to is just too<o:p></o:p></SPAN></TT></PRE><PRE style="BACKGROUND: white"><TT><SPAN style="COLOR: black">much trouble and creating even more fracturing and dilution, in my view.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></TT></PRE><PRE style="BACKGROUND: white"><TT><SPAN style="COLOR: black">The junk mail/pop up/invasiveness of google has no appeal for me.  It's too<o:p></o:p></SPAN></TT></PRE><PRE style="BACKGROUND: white"><TT><SPAN style="COLOR: black">bad that the problems couldn't, or wouldn't be resolved.  A valuable<o:p></o:p></SPAN></TT></PRE><PRE style="BACKGROUND: white"><TT><SPAN style="COLOR: black">resource will be lost, or at least diminished.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></TT></PRE><PRE style="BACKGROUND: white"><TT><SPAN style="COLOR: black"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></TT></PRE><PRE style="BACKGROUND: white"><TT><SPAN style="COLOR: black">Come April 1st I think I will simply take a permanent (or at least<o:p></o:p></SPAN></TT></PRE><PRE style="BACKGROUND: white"><TT><SPAN style="COLOR: black">semi-permanent until something changes for the better) break from the<o:p></o:p></SPAN></TT></PRE><PRE style="BACKGROUND: white"><TT><SPAN style="COLOR: black">list(s).  <o:p></o:p></SPAN></TT></PRE><PRE style="BACKGROUND: white"><TT><SPAN style="COLOR: black"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></TT></PRE><PRE style="BACKGROUND: white"><TT><SPAN style="COLOR: black">David Love<o:p></o:p></SPAN></TT></PRE><PRE style="BACKGROUND: white"><TT><SPAN style="COLOR: black"><A href="http://www.davidlovepianos.com/" target=_blank>www.davidlovepianos.com</A><o:p></o:p></SPAN></TT></PRE><PRE style="BACKGROUND: white"><TT><SPAN style="COLOR: black"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></TT></PRE><PRE style="BACKGROUND: white"><TT><SPAN style="COLOR: black"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></TT></PRE></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV> <P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV> <P style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto" class=MsoNormal>No virus found in this message.<BR>Checked by AVG - <A href="http://www.avg.com">www.avg.com</A><BR>Version: 2013.0.2899 / Virus Database: 2639/6121 - Release Date: 02/21/13<o:p></o:p></P></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>