<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Thanks for all the suggestions. Yes, that was my plan to pick out the couple noisiest ones, replace the grommets and see how that works. This customer call me - not to tune, but to solve the noise problem. I appreciate all the other suggestions also. I'll be going back there with new grommets and a whole bag of tricks!<div><br></div><div>Terry Farrell</div><div><br><div><div>On Feb 28, 2013, at 11:55 AM, Claude Harding wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><base href="x-msg://955/"><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Terry,<div> I'm sort of on the same wave-length as Mark. </div><div>I would suggest replacing the rubber grommets on one or two particularly noisy keys and see if they quieten down.</div><div>If so, it should be easy to sell the entire job, IF the noise is bothering the piano owner.</div><div>When they are brittle and breaking,I have found that the piano owner can see the obvious need for repair. However, if they are just a bit</div><div>noisy, many piano owners are happy to live with a little noise and keep their checkbooks in their pockets. Their call.</div><div>Best regards,</div><div>Claude Harding</div><div><br><div><div>On Feb 28, 2013, at 5:59 AM, Mark Potter wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-size: medium; "><div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font-family: garamond, 'new york', times, serif; font-size: 12pt; "><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Terry -<br><br>Just serviced a Baldwin spinet yesterday with rock-hard grommets that crumbled on the 4 keys I needed to remove to ease. However, they surprisingly were not noisy, and I wonder if it is because there was a thin felt punching between the nut and the grommet. Would only take you a minute to find out, I guess. Try a hitch pin punching or thin balance rail punching between nut and grommet. It *might* work. (And might not!)<br><br>Still, if the piano has any age to it - and it surely does - I would think a new set of grommets would be in order if you're gonna remove the nut anyway to include a felt punching.<br><br>Mark Potter<br></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font-family: garamond, 'new york', times, serif; font-size: 12pt; "><br><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; font-size: 12pt; "><font face="Tahoma" size="2"><hr size="1"><b><span style="font-weight: bold; ">From:</span></b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Terry Farrell <<a href="mailto:mfarrel2@tampabay.rr.com">mfarrel2@tampabay.rr.com</a>><br><b><span style="font-weight: bold; ">To:</span></b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">pianotech@ptg.org</a><br><b><span style="font-weight: bold; ">Sent:</span></b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Thu, February 28, 2013 6:48:10 AM<br><b><span style="font-weight: bold; ">Subject:</span></b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>[pianotech] Noisy Baldwin Spinet<br></font><br>Got a noisy Baldwin spinet. The rubber grommets on the ends of the keys are not real soft, but a not rock hard by any means - they are still soft enough to remove and replace into the metal forks. However, much noise is made upon key release. I'm pretty sure it's coming from an impact between the hard nut and the somewhat firm rubber grommet. Has anyone else run into this and found that replacing the original rubber grommets with new solved the problem? Or were these spinets noisy on day one?<div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><br></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Terry Farrell<br><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><br><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Begin forwarded message:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: medium; "><b>From:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b></span><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: medium; ">Terry Farrell <<a saprocessedanchor="true" rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:mfarrel2@tampabay.rr.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:mfarrel2@tampabay.rr.com">mfarrel2@tampabay.rr.com</a>><br></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: medium; "><b>Date:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b></span><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: medium; ">February 28, 2013 6:36:36 AM EST<br></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: medium; "><b>To:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b></span><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: medium; ">Terry Farrell <<a saprocessedanchor="true" rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:mfarrel2@tampabay.rr.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:mfarrel2@tampabay.rr.com">mfarrel2@tampabay.rr.com</a>><br></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: medium; "><b>Subject:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b></span><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: medium; "><b>IMG_0419</b><br></span></div><br><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; word-wrap: break-word; "><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><span><IMG_0419.jpeg></span><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; min-height: 14px; "><br></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; ">IMG_0419</font></div></div></div></blockquote></div></div></div></div></div></div></span></blockquote></div><br></div></div></blockquote></div><br></div></body></html>