<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META HTTP-EQUIV="Content-Type" CONTENT="text/html; = charset=us-ascii"> <TITLE>Message</TITLE> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2800.1106" name=GENERATOR> <STYLE>  </STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY lang=EN-US vLink=blue link=blue> <DIV>Hi Julio</DIV> <DIV>I've seen some = strange things done to the finish of some Grey Market pianos.  Are you sure = this finish had not been tampered with or "repaired" once before?  </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>jeannie</DIV> Jeannie Grassi, RPT Associate Editor, Piano = Technicians Journal <A href="mailto:jgrassi@silverlink.net">mailto:jgrassi@silverlink.net</A> = <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV></DIV> <DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader lang=en-us dir=ltr = align=left>-----Original Message----- From: pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org] On = Behalf Of Paul McCloud Sent: Monday, August 04, 2003 11:39 PM To: 'Pianotech' Subject: RE: Kawai Polyester Repair </DIV> <DIV class=Section1> Hi, Don:            = What can I say- I could have flaked off the whole finish.  The = damaged area just kept getting bigger and bigger.  I’ve had enough = experience to know what polyester is like, and this specimen was different.  = Normally, polyester is very well adhered to the wood (and color) and it is = nearly impossible to remove the clear poly without disturbing the color = and/or veneer.  This was different.  The topcoat was tinted, very = thin, and not at all adhered to anything underneath, like normal polyester = is.  I remember calling about it the next day to find out what it was I was = dealing with.  However, it was some time ago, and if I’m mistaken = with my information, I apologize.  I don’t remember who told me = about the finish.  I guess I’ll have to retract my statement, since = you’d be the one to know!  Really, = though, there are some weird things in finishes these days.  The digital pianos = have some difficult finishes to repair, and some really are as I described, = shrinked-on.  We’ve had some units that had to be returned, = since the finish had pulled off, and under so much tension that it would have = been impossible to repair (over particle board).             = Best,            = Paul McCloud            = San Diego            =   -----Original Message----- From: pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org] On Behalf Of Donald = Mannino Sent: Monday, August 04, 2003 = 9:42 PM To: = Pianotech Subject: RE: Kawai Polyester Repair   Paul, I'm not sure = what your information source is here, but Kawai does not use any kind of finish = as you described.  Shrink finish separated from an underlayment by wax????   If a piano was flaking near a repair area, it was = very likely loosened by the damage - you flake away anything loose, then = repair it. Kawai grands have standard polyester resin finishes.  = In ebony polish pianos there is a resin finish backer which is grey in color = under the black finish.  On wood finish pianos there is a catalyzed varnish = sealer under the polyester.  On satin finishes another varnish top coat = is applied which is rubbed out. Don = Mannino At 06:30 AM 8/4/2003 -0700, you wrote: I've had a lot of experience = with polyester, but I think the finish you're dealing with isn't polyester.  Kawai has been using a different process on their = high gloss pianos of late.  It is a kind of shrink process, and the = underlayment is separated from the topcoat by wax. Call Don Mannino = and ask him about it.  I once examined a rosewood Kawai piano that I = was going to touchup, but declined the job when I was able to flake off the = finish around the damaged area.  You are likely looking at a new = replacement lid.  Good = luck. <X-TAB>        </X-TAB>P= aul = McCloud <X-TAB>        </X-TAB= >San Diego -----Original Message----- From: = pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [<A href="mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org" eudora="autourl">mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org</A>] On Behalf = Of Julio Barea Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2003 7:07 AM To: = Pianotech Subject: Kawai Polyester Repair I recently attempted an edge repair on a = lid for a Kawai RX-2.  This is a polyester finish. I have been doing = polyester for a while now but I could not get this repair to take.  I = kept burning through the beveled edge to the red underneath. Anyone who = is very experienced in poly repair would be a great help to me with any advice.  I intend to focus on finish repair as the core of my business. The products I use exclusively are = Konig. --- "Those of us who dance appear insane to those who can't hear the = music."  George Carlin "I am prepared to meet my maker.  Whether my maker is prepared for the great ordeal of meeting me, is another = matter." Winston = Churchhill. ______________________________________________= ______________ Get advanced SPAM filtering on Webmail or POP Mail ... 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