<html> <head> <META HTTP-EQUIV="Content-Type" CONTENT="text/html; = charset=us-ascii"> <meta name=Generator content="Microsoft Word 10 (filtered)"> <style>  </style> </head> <body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple> <div class=Section1> <p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span = style='font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Are you sure it’s a soft v-bar?  How much material did the stringer take off?  Is it = possible he actually filed through the hardened section?  How long and what = is the angle of the counterbearing section?  Is the counterbearing area = flat or sloped?  Can you manage to insert something to increase the = deflection angle and shorten and detune the segment?  You might experiment by inserting a cut piece of brass half round or half oval underneath this = section to see if that doesn’t help.  Have you looked at the v bar = with a mirror to examine its shape?  I would certainly try that before = considering torching the v bar.  </span></font></p> <p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span = style='font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'> </span></font></p> <div> <p><font size=2 color=navy face="Times New Roman"><span = style='font-size:10.0pt; color:navy'>David Love</span></font><font size=2 color=navy><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:navy'><br> davidlovepianos@comcast.net </span></font></p> </div> <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 = face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>-----Original = Message-----<br> <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b> = pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org] <b><span = style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>ed440@mindspring.com<br> <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, February = 28, 2006 7:22 PM<br> <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> </span></font><font = size=2 face=Tahoma><span = style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>Pianotech = List</span></font><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span = style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'><br> <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: v-bar/capo = repair</span></font></p> <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 = face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'> </span></font></p> <div> <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 = face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Did the rebuilder file it = correctly?</span></font></p> </div> <div> <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 = face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Paul Revenko-Jones has a fine class on this. = Maybe he could send you his handout sheets.</span></font></p> </div> <div> <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 = face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>You might also try moving the strike point on = those notes.</span></font></p> </div> <div> <p class=MsoNormal = style='margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left: .5in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span = style='font-size:12.0pt'>Ed S.<br> <br> <br> -----Original Message----- <br> From: Barbara Richmond <br> <PIANO57@INSIGHTBB.COM>Sent: Feb 28, 2006 6:13 PM <br> To: Pianotech <br> <PIANOTECH@PTG.ORG>Subject: v-bar/capo repair </span></font></p> </div> <div> <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 = face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><ZZZHTML><ZZZHEAD><ZZZMETA = content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1" = http-equiv="Content-Type"><ZZZMETA name="GENERATOR" = content="MSHTML 6.00.2900.2802"></ZZZHEAD><ZZZBODY = bgColor="#ffffff">Howdy,</span></font></p> </div> <div> <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 = face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'> </span></font></p> </div> <div> <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 = face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Back to the 8' Seiler = grand.  Sorry if I'm starting to sound like a broken record.  Here's the story:  I serviced this piano when it was new.  Not long into = its life, it developed a noisy duplex at the low end of the treble = section.  I muted it off.  I tuned it for a few years, I moved = away...</span></font></p> </div> <div> <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 = face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'> </span></font></p> </div> <div> <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 = face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>I moved back.  In the = meantime, the piano was restrung.  I started servicing it again a year after = it was delivered.  9 months into servicing it, the noisy duplex returned = in the exact same spot--but add another note.  I freaked out (not in front = of the customer), the customer freaked out, too (not in front of = me).  I contacted the rebuilder who said he filed the capo. He and I came = to the conclusion (whether we are correct or not) that it is a case of = soft cast iron.  I looked up hardening cast iron in the archives.  To do = that would mean taking the plate out of the piano and that's = not an option.  I'm convinced if I refile the capo, the same thing is = going to happen again.  </span></font></p> </div> <div> <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 = face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'> </span></font></p> </div> <div> <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 = face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>I know there are some = pianos that have some sort of rod installed at the v-bar.  Is it possible to do = the same with this piano at the capo?  Has anyone done it?  Do you = have detailed instructions?  Will someone hold my = hand?.....Please?</span></font></p> </div> <div> <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 = face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'> </span></font></p> </div> <div> <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 = face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Thanks,</span></font></p> </div> <div> <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 = face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'> </span></font></p> </div> <div> <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 = face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Barbara Richmond, = RPT</span></font></p> </div> </div> </ZZZBODY></ZZZHTML> </body> </html>