<HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html;= charset=iso-8859-1"> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2600.0" name=GENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=#ffffff> <DIV align=left>I've used a slightly damp rag followed= immediately with a dry one and have never noticed a problem with= pianos I've followed for years. I agree that saturating the= ivories would be a mistake.  I don't really know how= quickly moisture goes into ivory though...I would think the= elbow grease would be loosening up more ivories than a little= moisture...  </DIV> <DIV align=left> </DIV> <DIV align=left>David I.</DIV> <DIV align=left><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV align=left><FONT size=2>----- Original message= ----------------------------------------><BR>From: David Love= <<A= href="mailto:davidlovepianos@earthlink.net">davidlovepianos@eart= hlink.net</A>><BR>To: <<A= href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">pianotech@ptg.org</A>><BR>Rec= eived: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 12:37:19 -0700<BR>Subject: Re: Cleaning= keys again</FONT></DIV> <DIV align=left><FONT size=2><BR>I'm sure that you are careful,= but I try to avoid moisture around ivories at all.  I think= the effects of loosening the glue joint are cumulative. = Best way to clean them (another topic) is just to rub them= out.  Takes a bit of elbow grease, but over time it's a= safer way to go.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2>David Love</FONT> </DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px;= MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT:= 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message -----= </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color:= black"><B>From:</B> <A title=baldwin@mta-01.sk.sympatico.ca= href="mailto:baldwin@mta-01.sk.sympatico.ca">Baldwin Yamaha= Piano Centre</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A= title=pianotech@ptg.org= href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">pianotech@ptg.org</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> August 13, 2002 12:01= PM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Cleaning keys= again</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV>David: It's a wipe it on wipe it off type of= operation, we have never had a problem with ant of the glue= joints.<BR>Roger<BR><BR><BR>At 10:43 AM 8/13/02 -0700, you= wrote:<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE class=cite cite="" type="cite"><FONT= size=2>Roger:  I think that's okay on keys with plastic= tops but I wouldn't use it with ivory.  I just prefer to= keep all moisture away from water soluble glue= joints.</FONT><BR> <BR><FONT size=2>David Love</FONT> <DL> <DD>----- Original Message ----- <DD>From:</B> <A href="mailto:baldyam@sk.sympatico.ca">jolly= roger</A> <DD>To:</B> <A= href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">pianotech@ptg.org</A> <DD>Sent:</B> August 13, 2002 8:39 AM <DD>Subject:</B> Re: Cleaning keys again<BR><BR> <DD>Hi David, <DD>          &= nbsp;     I used to use a scraper, as that= was the method taught.   Now I use the Fantastic for= the sides, it just cuts through that black crud, and finger= grease.  No material is removed, and it works well getting= the dirt from under the key lip, so the fronts also look clean.= One cleaner to do the tops, sides and fronts. <DD>Rubber gloves are recommended, as it is hard on the skin. <DD>Regards Roger<BR><BR><BR><BR> <DD>At 08:03 AM 8/13/02 -0700, you wrote: <BLOCKQUOTE class=cite cite="" type="cite"><FONT size=2> <DD>I think a disc sander is a bit dangerous.  It's too easy= to reduce the width of the key.  Just scrape them with a= small scraper or a razor blade.  </FONT> <DD><FONT size=2> <DD>David Love</FONT> <DD>----- Original Message ----- <DD>From: <A href="mailto:Wimblees@AOL.COM">Wimblees@AOL.COM</A>= <DD>To: <A href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">pianotech@ptg.org</A>= <DD>Sent: August 13, 2002 7:12 AM <DD>Subject: Re: Cleaning keys again<BR><BR><FONT face=arial= size=2> <DD>In a message dated 8/13/02 4:05:29 AM Central Daylight Time,= <A href="mailto:collin.s@skynet.be">collin.s@skynet.be</A>= writes: <BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE class=cite cite="" type="cite"> <DD>Hi List. <BR><BR> <DD>Thanks to all for the useful great input. <DD>So may I ask again what about cleaning the dirty wood of the= keys (not the keytops, this has just been fully discussed) ?= <BR><BR> <DD>Best regards <BR><BR> <DD>Stéphane Collin. </DD></BLOCKQUOTE><BR><BR> <DD>I sand them with a disc sander. <BR><BR> <DD>Wim</FONT><FONT face=arial>= </FONT></DD></BLOCKQUOTE></DD></DL></BLOCKQUOTE> <BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE><X-SIGSEP> <P></X-SIGSEP>Roger </P></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>