<DIV>Wether a piano gets the 440 treatment depends on what its used for and the client. I don"t know about you listers...but not all my pianos I service are new, and have already been neglected for years. I can only do what I can with whats in front of me. I don't consider myself a "tooner" because of it. Alpha88x@aol.com wrote: <BLOCKQUOTE class=replbq style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">Greetings,             Is one way of doing business for some tuners to just tune the piano "where it is"? In other words, they check the A and if its close enough (or even if its not close to 440 ) just tune the piano so that it is in tune with itself???            And even going further, If they have a regular client, such as a church, to do the above mentioned thing, cleaning up unisons (so as to do a "bang-up" tuning) and then, on every 4th tuning or so pull it back up to A440 or alittle above, so they are set up to repeat the whole process, thereby saving themselves some time on intermittent tunings, yet leaving the customer believing that they are receiving an A440 tuning each and every time...when they aren't receiving a true tuning (as far as proper pitch goes) each and every time??             Not that I would do such a thing in my practice. I do not condone it either. I think it is dishonest. My question is do some tooners do this?? is it possible?     Julia Reading, PA </BLOCKQUOTE></DIV> Richard the "Piano Guy"