<html> Tom, If I said that, it would have been about some other topic or piano model, or maybe I was having some kind of serious mental lapse (not unusual with me, maybe!).  This problem with the 6 bichord strings in the treble is well known to me, because I was the one who first discovered it and had to dig to find out how it happened. Don Mannino RPT At 06:21 PM 4/2/2002 -0500, you wrote: <blockquote type=cite class=cite cite>This is the same model that I complained about to Don Manino and I was told there were no complaints about that piano. Hmmmm. I tuned another just this morning with the identical problem.  Glad it's just not me. Tom Servinsky,RPT ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Brekne" <Richard.Brekne@grieg.uib.no> To: <pianotech@ptg.org> Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 11:42 AM Subject: Re: Kawai UST-8G > Leslie W Bartlett wrote: > > >         Tuned above piano yesterday, and the lowest three notes, bi-chords, on > > the treble bridge were almost untuneable. I wrote pianotech from a > > "foreign address" and didn't see it show up, so will try from here.  Is > > this "usual" for this piano. I could stop the blocks nicely (Tunelab > > Pro), on each string, but when played together they were horrible, and it > > was also impossible to get a clean octave at any perceived overtone. > >         Thoughts would be appreciated. > > les bartlett > > houston > > Did you try using your ears ?? grin.  Seriously tho.. some pianos just sound plain > bad in the lowest regions. Perhaps voicing down might help. My experience with > some lower end Kawaiis would make me think about getting a bit closer to the > fundemental if I could. But Kawaii is not alone in this for sure. I have seen a > few of the old Eastern European makes have a similiar problem... but it seemed > like in the eastern pianos you always had this "overloaded with fabric softener" > wash of higher overtones, and with the eastern european low ends it was because > the whole bass was generally just plain tubby... sometimes tubby to the extreme. > > Suggestion..... take a dead on 8:4 octave by directly referencing the 4th partial > of the higher note and tuning the 8th partial of the lower note to that... and > walk away... Or try voicing down a bit to quite some of the higher partial wash > and see what your ear can come up with. > > > -- > Richard Brekne > RPT, N.P.T.F. > Bergen, Norway > <a href="mailto:rbrekne@broadpark.no" eudora="autourl">mailto:rbrekne@broadpark.no</a> > <a href="http://home.broadpark.no/~rbrekne/ricmain.html" eudora="autourl">http://home.broadpark.no/~rbrekne/ricmain.html</a> > ></blockquote></html>