<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <html xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" = xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" = xmlns:w="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" = xmlns:st1="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" = xmlns="http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40"> <head> <META HTTP-EQUIV="Content-Type" CONTENT="text/html; = charset=us-ascii"> <meta name=ProgId content=Word.Document> <meta name=Generator content="Microsoft Word 10"> <meta name=Originator content="Microsoft Word 10"> <link rel=File-List href="cid:filelist.xml@01C5389E.0C35AE40"> <o:SmartTagType = namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="place"/> <o:SmartTagType = namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="PersonName"/>  <style>  </style>  </head> <body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple = style='tab-interval:.5in' id="role_body" bottomMargin=7 leftmargin=7 topmargin=7 rightMargin=7> <div class=Section1> I don’t = know, when I was talking with this guy at the Japanese Woodworker supply I really = started to feel guilty for even suggesting I might use that Tormek machine on a Japanese hand made chisel.  When I said that I wasn’t = really that good at sharpening by hand (though I can do an adequate job) his = response was “Well I don’t want to sound rude, but get = better”.  He sort of had a point.  Afterall, he could have easily sold me the Tormek = machine, I was ready to plunk down some money—I hate sharpening.  Admittedly, his approach to = these tools was somewhat zen = like.  You know, the tools are all = hand made, they have a spirit and a soul and such.  As you know, being from <st1:place>Northern California</st1:place> and reading = David Anderson’s posts (thanks David for putting me on the path) = I’m somewhat partial to that type of thinking.  After that I began to think that hooking one of those chisels up = to a machine was tantamount to torture and I thought I’d better rethink things.  I thought maybe = I’d buy it anyway but tell my Japanese chisels that I was only going to use = it on the English ones.  You = know, they don’t mind a bit of bondage and torture.  Look at Prince Charles, afterall.  = Then I figure I’d just slip them on the rack now and then when they = weren’t expecting it.  I figure = they’ll get used to it eventually.  =    <o:p></o:p></= p> <o:p> </o:p> <div> David Love <st1:PersonName>davidlovepianos@comcast.net</f= ont></st1:PersonName> = <o:p></o:p> </div> -----Original = Message----- From: = pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org] On Behalf Of <st1:PersonName>Erwinspiano@aol.com<= /font></st1:PersonName> Sent: Sunday, April 03, = 2005 9:56 PM To: pianotech@ptg.org Subject: Re: Japanese = Chisels <o:p> </o:p> <div> <div>    David<o:p></o:p> </div> <div>   I do it all the time & they hold an edge very well. Now were splittin = hairs again right?<o:p></o:p> </div> <div>    Dale Erwin<o:p></o:p> </div> <blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid blue = 1.5pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt; margin-left:3.75pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'> I was looking at a Tormek Sharpening system the other day at a Japanese Woodworker outlet and was advised by one of the sales people that = you should never use a sharpening device that hollow grinds the bevel on = a Japanese chisel because it reduces the support of the cutting edge = on these laminated type chisels.  I've always sharpened them by hand = anyway but was unaware of this.  Anyone else have any experience in this = area. I much prefer the Japanese cutting tools for there hardness and the ability to get a good edge that stays sharp. David Love davidlovepianos@comcast.net <o:p></o:p> </blockquote> </div> <div>  <o:p></o:p= > </div> <div>  <o:p></o:p= > </div> <div> Erwins Pianos Restorations 4721 Parker Rd. Modesto, Ca 95357 209-577-8397 Rebuilt Steinway , Mason &Hamlin Sales www.Erwinspiano.com<o:p></o:p> </div> </div> </body> </html>