<html> <body> The Broadwood loop is fine by me.  The first proto type I made up had a single turn and there was too much slippage.  James Arledge came up with twice around. Not so easy with 24 gauge wire. Regards Roger At 12:56 AM 4/9/2005, you wrote: <blockquote type=cite class=cite cite="">From: Michael Gamble <michael@gambles.fsnet.co.uk> Subject: Re: The "Jolly Loop" (Modified by Kent Swafford) To: V T <pianovt@yahoo.com> Cc: pianotech@ptg.org Hello Del, Dean Roger and List It seems to me </blockquote></body> </html>