<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; = charset=iso-8859-1"> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2800.1226" name=GENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; BACKGROUND-COLOR: = #ffffff" bgColor=#ffffff> <DIV>I regret I don't have any good techniques to offer, but I sure am interested in hearing what others have to say about this topic! I also = have a few questions.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I like your approach of putting one coat of finish on the panel and = ribs before glue-up. I should think that would go a long way in keeping = things clean. You mentioned being unhappy with minor damage to the panel after = cleaning up squeeze-out with a sharp chisel. Perhaps a sharp chisel is overkill in = this situation? Maybe a scraper with a good right-angled corner - or even = just a putty knife with a good right-angled corner - might scratch the finish a = tad (but who cares at this point) but won't damage wood.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Big question: How do you get the ribs (curved, I assume?) snug = enough to the panel so the finish doesn't get between the rib and panel - or do = you not have the ribs attached to the panel when spraying on this first coat of = finish? You state that you tape on the panel where the rib will be glued - = how do you get the tape the exact width of the rib so that you don't end up = with a quarter-inch of bare panel, thus defeating the effort to get a = protective coat of finish on the panel at the rib edge? I can easily imagine attaching = the rib and cutting tape off with an exacto-type knife - but I presume that will = create its own damage......</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Thanks for sharing.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Terry Farrell</DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = black"><B>From:</B> <A title=Erwinspiano@aol.com href="mailto:Erwinspiano@aol.com">Erwinspiano@aol.com</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A = title=pianotech@ptg.org href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">pianotech@ptg.org</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, September 20, = 2003 1:00 AM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Glue cleanup on = Ribs</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=#000040>  <FONT = size=3>For those of you who are pressing your own soundboards I'd like to compare notes = as to how you all go about cleaning up the glue squeeze at the glue joints. = I've done it two ways.</FONT></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=#000040 = size=3>    I've  used a go- bar deck and currently a fire hose neumatic press. = Cleanup with a go-bar deck as you go is easy because of access but with a = pneum. press the 2 by 6s are in the way. It's possible just awkward and have done = it alot.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=#000040 = size=3>    I've typically taped off the rim and rib glue jointson the bottom of = the board, pinned the ribs to the board, then I tape over the rib = ends before spraying on a coat of shellac. I find that this makes glue cleanup = easier and resist moisture absorption I've usually have used cold hide glue = and tried to limit the glue squezze out. Then I wipe it up/off with = damp/dry paper towells.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=#000040 size=3>  I = recently used tight bond 2 to glue up ribs on a S&S B.  I waited = till the glue squeeze beads jelled. After about 4 hr.s a sharp chisel was used = to cleanup the excess(which was like strings of rubber) but I was un = happy with the minor damage to the panel. A final sanding and one more coat = of shellac is applied before final finish but.....</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=#000040 = size=3>    The upside to hide glue is ease of cleanup. The down side is using some = moisture in cleanup as  the board is ribbed which can be moderated by = drying the board a bit more before pressing.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=#000040 = size=3>   I like the idea and strength of the tight bond 2. It does not cleanup as eaily = with the towell method however. </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=#000040 = size=3>    Ideas?</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=#000040><FONT size=3>     Dale </FONT>Erwin</FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>