<html> At 07:14 AM 9/14/2005 +0100, you wrote: <blockquote type=cite class=cite cite>ther= e’s too few positions you can use on an oblong pin – both at 180deg. To each other.</blockquote> Hello, Michael. I have a system for dealing with the oblong pins, though it's been awhile since I agreed to tune a square. They are awfully hard on one's back. The supply houses (at least over here) have a little extender to use when grand struts are too tall for your normal lever and tip to reach the first row of pins. One end looks like a tuning pin top, and the other is threaded to accept a normal tuning tip. I just put my oblong tuning tip on it. Then when tuning a square, I just pick it up, and move it by hand to the next tuning pin. Since the top is square like a normal tuning pin, my ordinary tuning hammer, with all 8 positions available due to the star tip, will fit over it at whatever angle I choose. It is all a little bit tippy, but it does work. It lives in the flannel bag with my tip wrench and other tuning tips -- you know, the bag which should live in the car, but which I use to hold my kit down in case of hurricanes. Susan </html>