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size=2>17 th
is related to the 3d, tenth, 17 th series , I guess that was What you =
intended
to say is not it ?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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size=2>-----Message d'origine-----<BR><B>De :</B>
pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org]<B>De la =
part
de</B> Donald Mannino<BR><B>Envoyé :</B> vendredi 11 avril =
2003
20:38<BR><B>À :</B> Pianotech<BR><B>Objet :</B> Re: =
Help on aural
stretch<BR><BR></FONT></DIV><FONT size=3>Dave,<BR><BR>It depends an =
awful lot
on the individual piano - that's why it is a little hard to answer =
your
question. If the tone is clear and you can hear double octave =
beats
clearly, you can simply try to tune on the sharp side of pure 4:1 =
double
octaves. In other pianos you can work with the octave + 5th =
(17th) and
tune them for consistency. Just how the 17ths are tuned really =
depends
on the scale, though.<BR><BR>In noisier pianos where all the beats may =
not be
as clear, you can usually still use the speed of the 2:1 beat as your =
guide to
consistency - pull the string quite sharp, and slow it down to where =
you can
hear the beat clearly and consistently, and gradually speed the beats =
up as
you work into the top octave to the point where they are almost too =
fast to
hear.<BR><BR>Or, set Cybertuner to OTS 9 and tune away . . . =
<BR><BR>Don
Mannino RPT<BR><BR><BR>At 07:54 AM 4/11/2003 -0700, you =
wrote:<BR><BR></FONT>
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size=2>A client
has asked me to put more stretch in the high treble. Simply put, how =
do I do
this as an aural tuner? I know it can be subjective, but I =
also need a
way to make it even.<BR><BR>Dave Streit, RPT<BR><BR>AAA Piano
Service<BR><BR>Portland, =
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