<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1" = http-equiv=Content-Type> <META content="MSHTML 5.00.3314.2100" name=GENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=#ffffff> <DIV><FONT size=4>Z!</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=4>Amen to that!</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=4>Joe</FONT></DIV> <DIV></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: = 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = black"><B>From:</B> <A href="mailto:diskladame@provide.net" = title=diskladame@provide.net>Z! Reinhardt</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A = href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org" title=pianotech@ptg.org>Pianotech</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, May 19, 2001 = 1:23 PM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Sangler & = Sohne Serial Seizing Centers</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>According to The Piano Book by Larry = Fine, this make of piano is made by the Pearl River Group in China, unless it is = the 47" upright, which is made in Belarus.  The warranty is for 10 years, = parts only.  (How much does a packet of centerpins cost versus how many = hours will it take to install them properly?)  Sounds like this piano's = problems will put you between a rock and a hard place without your = shirt intact.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Perhaps the ceiling is the best place = to send the nursing home management -- they have the choice of paying for the = entire job to be done right, or of buying a whole new better-grade of = piano.  It's a no-win situation, and I'd hate to see any technician get caught in the = middle of something like this as people try to get out of paying for the = necessary work or for a better instrument.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Z! Reinhardt  RPT<BR>Ann = Arbor  MI<BR><A = href="mailto:diskladame@provide.net">diskladame@provide.net</A></FONT><= /DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = black"><B>From:</B> <A href="mailto:agilreath@mindspring.com" title=agilreath@mindspring.com>Allan L. Gilreath, RPT</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A = href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org" title=pianotech@ptg.org>pianotech@ptg.org</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, May 19, 2001 = 12:45 PM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: Sangler & = Sohne Serial Seizing Centers</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=670223416-19052001><FONT color=#0000ff = face=Arial size=2>Dave,</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=670223416-19052001><FONT color=#0000ff = face=Arial size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=670223416-19052001><FONT color=#0000ff = face=Arial size=2>We've run into something similar on a couple of = brands.  As I'm not sure who the manufacturer of the Sangler is, it's difficult to = diagnose more.  However, contact the dealer and the manufacturer to see = if this can be covered under warranty.  A systemic problem like this = certainly sounds like IMO, the proper remedy is to repin all of them with = proper technique.  It's interesting that the wippen flange is the one = freezing and not the hammer flange as this is where I usually find this to = show up.</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=670223416-19052001><FONT color=#0000ff = face=Arial size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=670223416-19052001><FONT color=#0000ff = face=Arial size=2>BTW, we will have several classes on dealing with action = centers as well as hands-on opportunities at the Annual Convention & = Institute in Reno.  Also there will be plenty of factory techs and other = experienced technicians whose brains you can pick.</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=670223416-19052001><FONT color=#0000ff = face=Arial size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=670223416-19052001><FONT color=#0000ff = face=Arial size=2>Hope to see you there.</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <P><FONT size=2>Allan<BR>Allan L. Gilreath, RPT<BR>Assistant = Director - TEAM2001<BR>July 11-15, 2001 - Reno, = NV<BR>agilreath@mindspring.com<BR><A href="http://www.ptg.org/conv.htm" target=_blank>http://www.ptg.org/conv.htm</A><BR>Director: Laura = Olsen, RPT<BR>Assistant Directors: Allan Gilreath, RPT - Gary Neie, RPT - = Dale Probst, RPT</FONT> </P> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV align=left class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr><FONT = face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> = owner-pianotech@ptg.org [mailto:owner-pianotech@ptg.org]<B>On Behalf Of </B>Dave Bunch<BR><B>Sent:</B> Friday, May 18, 2001 12:06 PM<BR><B>To:</B> pianotech@ptg.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> Sangler & Sohne Serial = Seizing Centers<BR><BR></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2>I service a three year old Sangler & Sohne = in a nursing home. Among its many problems is that as time passes, the = centers start seizing up a few at a time. I mean they will be fine when I = am there tuning an a month later five whippen centers will be so tight you = can barely move the flange by hand! Protek won't touch it. I have to = repin them, check the rest of them. Everything is fine then I get a call = a couple months later and there are several new ones. Is glue = leaching through the bushings? Is there any solution besides repining the = whole action? They would hit the ceiling with that suggestion. Anyone = else seen this?</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2>Dave Bunch<FONT size=1></DIV> = <P> </P></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></FONT></FONT></BODY>= </HTML>