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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hi David and Joe,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I think you are arguing C# = Db =
without realizing
that your perspectives are totally different.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Passing the test at 100% does not mean =
that you
matched the 'Master' tuning without any error,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>just without any points being deducted. =
A big
difference. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>And BWT C# and Db are only the same =
note in piano,
keyboard, and other fixed instruments such as orchestra bells etc. so =
that one
can not adjust the pitch to what the note {is} in relation to the chord =
being
played</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Joe Goss RPT<BR>Mother Goose =
Tools<BR><A
href="mailto:imatunr@srvinet.com">imatunr@srvinet.com</A><BR><A
href="http://www.mothergoosetools.com">www.mothergoosetools.com</A></FO=
NT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=ilvey@sbcglobal.net =
href="mailto:ilvey@sbcglobal.net">David
Ilvedson</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=pianotech@ptg.org
href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">pianotech@ptg.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, September 13, =
2005 8:34
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: SAT Scores on =
Tuning
Exam</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<P><BR>Again...you can't pass the PTG tuning test with a SAT III =
unless you
can pass the 2 octave temperment area section. I think Joe, =
the
bellicose, thought I was saying anyone could pass the test with a SAT =
at 100%,
which of course I never said. </P>
<P>David I.<BR><BR></P>
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Original message<BR>From: "Andrew and Rebeca Anderson"
<ANREBE@SBCGLOBAL.NET><BR>To: Pianotech =
<PIANOTECH@PTG.ORG><BR>Received:
9/13/2005 5:08:25 AM<BR>Subject: Re: SAT Scores on Tuning Exam<BR><BR>
<P align=left>Joe,<BR>Have you used a verituner? I've =
disagreed with it
before and tried re-tuning aurally only to discover that it had made =
the best
compromise available from the beast in front of me. It works =
with the
partials of each note it tunes as opposed to using only the partials =
of three
sampled notes from the piano. You can choose the degree of =
stretch you
want to use. <BR><BR>The tolerances in the portion you can use =
your ETD
on are quite generous. The aural section is tight, but you can't =
use
your ETD there anyway and that is the mental muscle you have to =
develop.
The Verituners measured tuning and detune functions are quite useful =
to
practice doing temperaments with.<BR><BR>While I'm no CTE, I have =
checked it
out at my leisure and have been quite satisfied with what it
does.<BR><BR>Andrew<BR>At 11:44 PM 9/12/2005, you wrote:<BR></P>
<BLOCKQUOTE class=cite cite="" type="cite">So I just checked =
with Michael
Kimbell, our San Francisco CTE and tunin=<BR>g examiner and he =
concurred
with my statement. <BR>David ,<BR>Then Michael is on =
Drugs, IMO.
<BR>The simple fact remains, that the Test Instrument is tuned =
Aurally, by
at least Three tuners, one of which must be a CTE. Since the piano =
is tuned
Aurally, there is no way in hell, the SAT will reproduce this! I'm =
sure if
you check with Paul Brown, he'll tell you that exams, of record, do =
not bear
out this B.S.! As for the claims of Reyburn and Verituner...That =
smatters of
the "Diaphramatic Soundboard" B.S. that we so blatantly poo poo, on =
this
list almost every day. Sales Hype, IMO.<BR><FONT size=2>Joe =
Garrett,
R.P.T.<BR>Captain, Tool Police<BR>Squares R
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