<HTML>In a message dated 8/30/2003 = 10:53:03 AM Pacific Daylight Time, RNossaman@cox.net writes: <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"> >    It is also reversible for the next guy who has to get= the board out >of the piano or Maybe you. Can you imagine having to clean a rim joint <= BR> >that was coated with tight bond, bulduc or some other kind of glue? What= >a headache.  Its obvious that modern wood glues have strength that = cold >or hot hide doesn,t but it always amazes me how solidly our antiquated <= BR> >pianos have hung ( and some not)together with animal colagen compound. <= BR> >Imagine how much more difficult it would be to remove key bushings,guide= >rail bushings, key buttons,hammershanks, soundboards,pinblocks etc for <= BR> >repairs if the glue wasn't as reversible and workable as hide glue. Just= >a thought in that direction. >    Dale Erwin I wonder how necessary the consideration of reversibility is in soundboard <= BR> work.</BLOCKQUOTE> ..>>>>>  Hi Ron       I replaced a board in an old A . It was it's = third board. Fortunately it was hide glue.    </FO= NT> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE st= yle="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; = PADDING-LEFT: 5px">     </BLOCKQUOTE>    &nbs= p;     I= haven't removed hundreds of soundboards, so I may not have gotten a <BLOCKQ= UOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">good cross sectional statistical sampl= ing, but I've never been able to get one out without trashing it, even when the ribs were half separated from <BR= > the panel. </BLOCKQUOTE>   I've always had plenty of spruce chunks and= glue to chisel and <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">scrape off of the rim.   </BLOCKQUOTE>    &nbs= p;    >>>>>>>> This is true but My main idea is that even thou= gh Hide glue takes         &nbs= p;          some soaking </FONT= > <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">scaping &cleaning to get glue off the rim I doubt its a= s difficult as tight bond. Ok probably not a huge consideration but I've not= had the need to scrape tight bond off a rim but would bet it is a far more = challenge.</BLOCKQUOTE>    &nbs= p;         Nor do I find soundboard replacement quite as casual = <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">and common a repair as replacing a set of hammers or key bu= shings. How many times have you put repeat sets of hammers or key bushings in the same piano?    >>>> You'd be surprised how many sets of repeat key= bushing sets we've done for churches ,college etc. An occasional set of ham= mers </BLOCKQUOTE>    &nbs= p;     H= ow many times for repeat soundboards? The need for reversibility is <= FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=2 FAMILY= ="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"> the requirement that the part you are NOT replacing be minimally damaged in = disassembly. That would be the rim, and Titebond will scrape off of the rim = with the application of heat just fine. The soundboard being replaced is <BR= > trash or kindling anyway, preferably kindling, so the choice of glue used <B= R> is irrelevant to that. </BLOCKQUOTE>>>> Mo= stly irrelevant    &nbs= p; Maybe we should be cons= idering knocking the ribs off of these old <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT= : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">boards, planing the finish off, and using them as stock to = laminate up the rib sets for the new panels. After all, that old panel was the "soul of the = instrument". Why not put it to good use in it's next incarnation? Ron N </BLOCKQUOTE> >>>>>&g= t;>>>Now yo= ur talkin----Dale </HTML>