<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD><TITLE>Was Fish, I see no further utility in the = list.</TITLE> <META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; = charset=iso-8859-1"> <STYLE type=text/css>BLOCKQUOTE { PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; PADDING-TOP: 0px } DL { PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; PADDING-TOP: 0px } UL { PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; PADDING-TOP: 0px } OL { PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; PADDING-TOP: 0px } LI { PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; PADDING-TOP: 0px } </STYLE> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2900.2604" name=GENERATOR></HEAD> <BODY bgColor=#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Awe mannnnn......you are one of the few = posters that I read no matter what.  Off topic, on topic...who cares I'll = read your posts every time.  And, I learn something from most of your = posts.  Sorry to say this, but, I'm really pissed.  I'll miss you.  </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Humbled by your presence</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Mike Bratcher</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = black"><B>From:</B> <A title=sec@overspianos.com.au = href="mailto:sec@overspianos.com.au">Overs Pianos</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A = title=pianotech@ptg.org href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">Pianotech</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, February 19, = 2005 10:46 PM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Was Fish, I see no = further utility in the list.</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV>Its Ron Overs here,</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV>Mr Brekne wrote:</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE cite="" type="cite">Yes Ron, actually my words do = encourage one and all  (misguided or not) to explore the world of piano sound = to the fullest.</BLOCKQUOTE> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV>The above remark was in reply to me, Ron Overs, not Ron = Nossaman.</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV>I don't accept your spin!  Your words certainly don't = encourage me to do anything, apart from getting my 'blood up'. But I have no doubt = that this will give you some degree of satisfaction.</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV>Yesterday, I concluded a post with the following.</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE cite="" type="cite">Knowledge in our discipline is = expanding all the time. We are living at a time when 300 years of combined = thinking has resulted in what we have come to know as the modern piano. It is = essential that this thinking and evolution should be allowed to continue.<B> = Further progress remains possible as long as we don't let the politics of = the currently-successful ones get in the way</B>. We must always = endeavour to work out what is a worthwhile design feature, and what might be a = dead end idea. The black art of piano design is fascinating, and there = remains an ocean of improvements waiting to be found. As with the evolution of = species, many subspecies will come and go like the Dodo. Not all will be bad = ideas, and some may be worthy of resurrection. But new Dodos will come = along as well. We must use our judgement to establish what we believe to be = the best combination of established practice, past practice and future = possibilities. Getting the three together in the best proportion, when building a = new instrument, can be somewhat akin to jumping off a cliff in the hope = that there is a soft landing at the bottom, and not just = rocks.</BLOCKQUOTE> <BLOCKQUOTE cite="" type="cite"><BR></BLOCKQUOTE> <BLOCKQUOTE cite="" type="cite">You also have to contend with a = multitude of 'technical' opinion, which sometimes hasn't even been down the = 'thinking road' you have taken. So often this chorus will discount the new = idea just because it is different and 'not the way' their favourite = manufacturer does it. It doesn't necessarily mean that the new idea hasn't got merit, = but you have to somehow carry on through the 'thunderstorm' of disbelief = which surrounds you.</BLOCKQUOTE> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV>In the last paragraph, from yesterday's post (above), my = reference to 'technical opinion' referred in particular to that of Richard Brekne, = who likes to put out his 'Mr nice guy' spin on the surface, while he calls = into question the work of any who might dare to work towards a 'better = mouse-trap'. Maybe Terry Farrell or Dale Erwin will be his next target (although I = think he's already done Dale once before - and I know that Ron N's had a = little taste and Del's gone).</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV>Unfortunately, I believe that the pianotech list has become for = me a waste of time and effort. In this instance, I am failing to carry on = through the 'thunderstorm' of disbelief.</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV>Some of us have foregone so much income opportunity to the = further study of the instrument, and I sometimes wonder why, since it doesn't seem = to be appreciated? As we all know, certain people were much smarter back in 1900.</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV>I am beginning to understand why Del has given this list a wide = berth in recent times. A worthy contributor has gone missing thanks in part to = the background noise that keeps coming from Brekne, who's banter never = lets up.</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV>A large number of Pianotech subscribers have made worthy = contributions over the few years that I have taken part. Thank you for your generosity.</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV>I'm getting out of here for a while.</DIV> <DIV>Feb 20, 2005</DIV> <DIV>Ron Overs.</DIV><X-SIGSEP><PRE>-- </PRE></X-SIGSEP> <DIV><FONT face=Times color=#000000 size=-2><BR></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Times color=#0000ff size=+1><B>OVERS PIANOS - SYDNEY</B></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Times color=#0000ff><I>  Grand piano manufacturers</I></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#000000>________________________</FONT><BR><FONT color=#000000></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Times color=#000000>Web:    http://www.overspianos.com.au</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Times color=#000000>Email: mailto:ron@overspianos.com.au</FONT><FONT = color=#000000><BR>________________________</FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></B= ODY></HTML>