<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=US-ASCII"> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2900.2668" name=GENERATOR></HEAD> <BODY id=role_body style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: #000000; FONT-FAMILY: = Arial" bottomMargin=7 leftMargin=7 topMargin=7 rightMargin=7><FONT id=rol= e_document face=Arial color=#000000 size=2> <DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3>  Tremaine</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3>   Nice to hear form you. Well ,I guess <EM><U= >if I like</U></EM> the sound of the old L strings I could simply measure I.D. &am= p; O D. , have them rerpoduced & just forgo the scaling altogether except I'm= interested in accurate measurments & even tensions.. So how does one kno= w if the tension programs one is using is actually the ( correct) one?</FONT></DI= V> <DIV><FONT size=3>  Ari Isaac was the one I had the experience with t= he L strings many loong years ago. His scaling for my taste was always (almost wa= y to heavy & irratic. In fairness he' probalby learned a few things since the= n as we all have but I never hear from any one on this list that uses them. = I do know one can scale a stwy B set to heavy & kill the sustain & natura= l beauty of a stwy Bass end.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3>   AmHIK.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3>   Dale</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: blue 2px solid"><= FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" face=Arial color=#000000 size= =2> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>The Sanderson (Pscale) Break Percent formula calculates the top = 10 bichords of an original Steinway L scale to be in the 55% to 67% of B= reak Point range. In fact, from what I have been able to determine, the Sanders= on formula calculates Break Point at about 4% higher than whatever formu= la Del is using.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Given that the tensile strength of today's wire is said to be higher,= I just interpret the Sanderson calculation with this in mind.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Tremaine Parsons</DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-L= EFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>Fr= om:</B> <A title=mailto:fandrich@pianobuilders.com href="mailto:fandrich@pianobuilders.com">Delwin D Fandrich</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=mailto:pianotech@p= tg.org href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">'Pianotech'</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, June 25, 2005 5:5= 9 PM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: Arledge Bass strings= </DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=234185700-26062005><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=#000080 size=3>What are you using to ca= lculate the percentage of breaking strength? If it is the formula presented by A= l Sanderson and used by Tremaine Parsons, it is incorrect. </FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=234185700-26062005><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=#000080 size=3></FONT></SPAN> </DI= V> <DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=234185700-26062005><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=#000080 size=3>The Model Ls I've measur= ed come to the high 50%/low 60% range. At least when compared to the real-world ten= sile strength of the wire in use today.</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=234185700-26062005><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=#000080 size=3></FONT></SPAN> </DI= V> <DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=234185700-26062005><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=#000080 size=3>Del</FONT></SPAN></DIV><= BR> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000080 2px s= olid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader lang=en-us dir=ltr align=left> <HR tabIndex=-1> <FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> <A title=mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org href="mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org">pianotech-bounces@ptg.org</A= > [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Erwinspiano@aol.com<BR><B>Sent:</B> June 25, 2005 5:34 PM<BR><B>To:</B> pianotech@ptg.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> Arledge Bass strings<BR></FONT><BR></DIV> <DIV></DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#000000 size=2> <DIV><FONT size=3>   List</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3>   Speaking of strings, I've had the ple= asure now of using  about 6 sets of the Arledge strings  & I l= ike them very much. I like the neatness of the  wraps etc. But as muc= h as this I find the tone color of the scaling a bit darker  thru&nbsp= ; out but I find it especially refreshing in the top of the bass scales where typically many makers get a bit thin & whiny sounding which = I believe is a tension problem.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3>    I haven't checked but I'd guess= at a bit heavier scaling being employed which, in my limited scaling experience gives a darker tone with more power.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3>  IE the Old 1920's  stwy L scale in the= region of notes 20 - 26 were scaled toward the 70% of breaking strengt= h & they sounded awesome. When on occasion I have replaced sets wher= e the tension was reduced in this area the tone suffers greatly. ON havi= ng it corrected the tone came back. I'm not finding this weakness in=  the Arledge strings at present.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3>  I'm interested in any ones feedback be it objective or subjective.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3>   Cheers</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3>  Dale Erwin</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3>  Oh & I like personal service, southern hospitableness & a can do attitude.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3> !!!!!!!!!</FONT></DIV></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></FO= NT></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV> <DIV></DIV> <DIV> </DIV></FONT></BODY></HTML>