<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; = charset=iso-8859-1"> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2800.1400" name=GENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=#ffffff> <DIV><SPAN class=687341500-04062004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff = size=2>Julia,</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=687341500-04062004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff = size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=687341500-04062004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff = size=2>Joe's right about it being somewhat challenging - especially on a spinet when = the stickers get in the way. I'd try everything first before I remove this action.</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=687341500-04062004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff = size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=687341500-04062004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff = size=2>I reach in there first with a long tweezers to get most of the spring out = - it usually breaks. Then, w</FONT></SPAN><SPAN = class=687341500-04062004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>hile holding on to the wippen so = as to prevent any damage, pull the rest of the wire out with a small needle nose = pliers, which usually gets the glue out with it. I normally don't have to use the hole = cleaning tool.</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=687341500-04062004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff = size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=687341500-04062004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff = size=2>I place a bit of glue on the bottom of the new spring before it goes in, = but you could use a sharpened hammer shank to put it in the hole first. Then, if = the planets are aligned just right, and you hold your tongue a certain way, = you can use the tweezers to squeeze the new spring and work it into place. It'll = likely take a while to get the hang of it if it's the first time you've had to = do this.</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=687341500-04062004></SPAN><FONT face="Times New = Roman"><FONT size=2><SPAN class=687341500-04062004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff></FONT></SPAN></FONT></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face="Times New Roman"><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff = size=2><SPAN class=687341500-04062004>If you must remove this action, you'll first = have to remove the player stuff too. Plan on it taking a while since you'll have = to figure it out.</SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face="Times New Roman"><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff = size=2><SPAN class=687341500-04062004></SPAN></FONT></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face="Times New Roman"><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff = size=2><SPAN class=687341500-04062004>Let us know how it goes. May the Force be = with you!</SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face="Times New Roman"><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff = size=2><SPAN class=687341500-04062004></SPAN></FONT></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face="Times New Roman"><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff = size=2><SPAN class=687341500-04062004>Regards,</SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face="Times New Roman"><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff = size=2><SPAN class=687341500-04062004></SPAN></FONT></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face="Times New Roman"><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff = size=2><SPAN class=687341500-04062004>John Formsma</SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face="Times New Roman"><FONT size=2><SPAN class=687341500-04062004></SPAN></FONT></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face="Times New Roman"><FONT size=2><SPAN class=687341500-04062004> </SPAN>-----Original = Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org]<B>On Behalf = Of</B> Joe And Penny Goss<BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, June 03, 2004 11:01 AM<BR><B>To:</B> Pianotech<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: jack springs in drop action<BR><BR></DIV></FONT></FONT> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px = solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hi Julia,</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>It is possible to remove and replace = the spring without removing the action. But for 6 or more, standing on my head is = not my favorite thing to do.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Remove spring by grabbing with a = forceps plier ( they grab and lock on the item being held and are very thin ) and = twist the spring arround the jaws pulling it out of the hole.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>The hard part will be cleaning the = springs base hole out. There is a special tool for this that looks like a round = saw. Droping the bridal strap will allow you to use the tool but you may = need the new updated blue language dictionary to complete the removal of the = old glue from the hole.  A drop of Gorilla glue in the hole and insert the = new spring. Remember only a drop as this glue expands.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I hope all goes well.</FONT></DIV> <DIV>Joe Goss<BR><A href="mailto:imatunr@srvinet.com">imatunr@srvinet.com</A><BR><A = href="http://www.mothergoosetools.com">www.mothergoosetools.com</A></DI= V> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = black"><B>From:</B> <A title=Alpha88x@aol.com href="mailto:Alpha88x@aol.com">Alpha88x@aol.com</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A = title=pianotech@ptg.org href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">pianotech@ptg.org</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, June 03, 2004 = 8:58 AM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> jack springs in drop = action</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV><FONT face=arial,helvetica><FONT lang=0 = face=Arial size=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" = PTSIZE="10">Greetings,<BR><BR>      &nbsp= ;     I was called to tune a Kimball spinet player piano the other day on = which a few (6) of the keys didnt work, only to find out that the jacks on = these 6 keys were not returning all the way under the butt. This prevents = the jack from delivering power the hammer. = <BR><BR>          &nbsp= ;  At first I thought the jack's center pin bushings were tight and = swollen, then I saw the jack springs looked like they could use replacing. Is = anyone familiar with this type of piano? = <BR><BR>          &nbsp= ;   Also, if the springs need replacing, is there a special tool or = tweezer to reach back in there (drop action) to replace the spring?  Am I = in for alot of labor here or what? Now I am thinking rehaps just a touch of = a lubricant on the hammer's butt leather will do the trick. I didnt = try that. Any suggestions? <BR><BR>Thanks,<BR>Julia Gottchall,<BR>Reading, PA    = </FONT></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>