<HTML>In a message dated 8/6/02 9:40:22 PM !!!First Boot!!!, jrpiano@win.eastlink.ca writes: <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Hi List, I just removed the pins in a piano, in preparation for a restringing. The majority of the old pins were bent, some were quite bad. Is this because, a tuner was bending the pins, to fine tune? I seem to remember someone saying they bent the pin a bit. Regards, John M. Ross </BLOCKQUOTE> It would seem to me that the tip of the hammer would break before it could bend a tuning pin. Is there any evidence that the pins had been driven? Maybe in the process of driving them deeper in the block, the tuner hit them at an angle. Just a thought. Wim </HTML>