<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1" = http-equiv=Content-Type> <META content="MSHTML 5.00.2614.3500" = name=GENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY background="" bgColor=#ffffff scroll=yes style="BACKGROUND-POSITION: 0px 0px; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: = 12pt; MARGIN: 5px 10px 10px" ORGYPOS="0"> <DIV><FONT size=2>Hi, I'm an RPT and a fair share of the pianos I have = here are overdampers and THAT IS the exact way I tune them!</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2>Brian</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=2>South Africa</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A href="mailto:pianoman@westnet.com.au" = title=pianoman@westnet.com.au>Robin Stevens</A> </DIV> <DIV><B>To:</B> <A href="mailto:ilvey@sbcglobal.net" title=ilvey@sbcglobal.net>ilvey@sbcglobal.net</A> ; <A href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org" = title=pianotech@ptg.org>Pianotech</A> </DIV> <DIV><B>Sent:</B> 09 October, 2005 1:41 AM</DIV> <DIV><B>Subject:</B> Overdamper supporter</DIV></DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <TABLE border=0 cellPadding=2 cellSpacing=0 id=INCREDIMAINTABLE = width="100%"> <TBODY> <TR> <TD id=INCREDITEXTREGION style="CURSOR: auto; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 12pt" = width="100%"> <DIV> I think that all you... "will not tune overdamper = pianos" group should be trained to tune these pianos using Paps mutes or a = similar device as part of your RPT exam. You all display your "RPT" status = proudly, but, will not work on old pianos! I wonder what you would = think if your doctor said to you on your next visit....sorry I only deal with young patients!! </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Many of these old overdampers are easier to tune, and some = have better pin blocks than some underdampers. It only takes a slight = change of method. Reading what some of you guys are doing trying to insert = your tuning strips is quite comical. You obviously have not heard of = the saying...There has to be a better way!!</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Robin Stevens ARPT</DIV> <DIV>South Australia</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV id=IncrediOriginalMessage><I>-------Original = Message-------</I></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV id=receivestrings> <DIV dir=ltr style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt" <i><B>From:</B></I> <A href="mailto:ilvey@sbcglobal.net">ilvey@sbcglobal.net</A>; <A href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">Pianotech</A></DIV> <DIV dir=ltr style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt" <i><B>Date:</B></I> = 10/09/05 01:14:54</DIV> <DIV dir=ltr style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt" <i><B>To:</B></I> <A href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">pianotech@ptg.org</A></DIV> <DIV dir=ltr style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt" <i><B>Subject:</B></I> = Re: Reinbach Piano</DIV></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I don't work on birdcages anymore but....I remember tipping = the action towards me so I could insert temp strips on all the unisons = leaving just one string to deal with when tuning.   Then when I = couldn't take it anymore, I'd remove the temp strips and do the = unisons...</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>David Ilvedson, RPT</DIV> <DIV>Pacifica, California</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>----- Original message = ----------------------------------------</DIV> <DIV>From: "Will Wickham" <<A = href="mailto:wwickham@stny.rr.com">wwickham@stny.rr.com</A>></DIV> <DIV>To: Pianotech <<A href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">pianotech@ptg.org</A>></DIV> <DIV>Received: 10/8/2005 4:15:09 AM</DIV> <DIV>Subject: Re: Reinbach Piano</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>>This isn't my first trip into the birdcage. Great deal of = fun. It is</DIV> <DIV>>the first time I've had to resort to muting through the = action though.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>>Until I either know something about Reinbach pianos in = general or this</DIV> <DIV>>beasty in particular, I will keep going back to do my = best to make it</DIV> <DIV>>work well!</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>>will wickham</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>>On Oct 8, 2005, at 6:03 AM, Farrell wrote:</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>>> Don't know anything about Reinbach, but birdcages I = have had the</DIV> <DIV>>> displeasure to meet. Make a policy - either run or = charge your hourly</DIV> <DIV>>> fee plus a frustration factor. I charge 1.5 times my = regular hourly</DIV> <DIV>>> on-site fee ($60 x 1.5 = $90).</DIV> <DIV>>></DIV> <DIV>>> And make it clear to the owner - you'll tune it, but = it is untunable -</DIV> <DIV>>> so don't expect much. Be sure to cover the lecture = about upgrading to</DIV> <DIV>>> something like a 1950 Lester spinet or somesuch = POS.</DIV> <DIV>>></DIV> <DIV>>> Just curious, why are you going back for a "second = crack at it?"</DIV> <DIV>>> Wasn't the first visit scary enough?</DIV> <DIV>>></DIV> <DIV>>> Terry Farrell</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>>_______________________________________________</DIV> <DIV>>pianotech list info: <A = href="https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives">http://www.ptg.org= /mailman/listinfo/pianotech</A></DIV> <DIV>_______________________________________________</DIV> <DIV>pianotech list info: <A = href="https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives">http://www.ptg.org= /mailman/listinfo/pianotech</A></DIV> <DIV> </DIV></TD></TR> <TR> <TD id=INCREDIFOOTER width="100%"> <TABLE cellPadding=0 cellSpacing=0 width="100%"> <TBODY> <TR> <TD width="100%"></TD> <TD align=middle id=INCREDISOUND vAlign=bottom></TD> <TD align=middle id=INCREDIANIM = vAlign=bottom></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></BOD= Y></HTML>