<html xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" = xmlns:w="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" = xmlns:st1="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" = xmlns="http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40"> <head> <META HTTP-EQUIV="Content-Type" CONTENT="text/html; = charset=us-ascii"> <meta name=ProgId content=Word.Document> <meta name=Generator content="Microsoft Word 10"> <meta name=Originator content="Microsoft Word 10"> <link rel=File-List href="cid:filelist.xml@01C61176.1A468480"> <o:SmartTagType = namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="time"/> <o:SmartTagType = namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="City"/> <o:SmartTagType = namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="place"/>  <style>  </style>  </head> <body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple = style='tab-interval:.5in'> <div class=Section1> <st1:City><st1:place>Marshall</= font></st1:place></st1:City>, <o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> It sounds like you have several = tuning pins that are too loose to hold tension. You will never get those = strings tuned until you get the pins tighter. There are several posts in the archives = on using thin CA glue to tighten pins. <o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> <div> Dean<o:p></o:p></fon= t> Dean May       &nbs= p;     cell = 812.239.3359<o:p></o:p> PianoRebuilders.co= m   = 812.235.5272<o:p></o:p> Terre Haute = IN  = 47802<o:p></o:p> </div> <o:p> </o:p> -----Original = Message----- From: = pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org] On Behalf Of pianotune05@comcast.net Sent: Wednesday, January = 04, 2006 8:49 PM To: Pianotech Subject: Re: RUBBER = MUTES <o:p> </o:p> <div> HI = Terry,<o:p></o:p> </div> <div> The tuning lever i'm = getting is the schaff 21 with the extension just in case I might need it.  When I = was using the student hammer, I had to lift the handle in some places in the = grand because the handle kept knocking the iron strut, I guess that's what = it's called.  The pins were loose too, and man one little tweek sent the = pitch across town only to return once I sent it back.  I always kick = myself when I'm tuning too long. what if someone thinks, "Hey this guy doesn' t = know what he's doing?"  I drove the cashier crazy plunking the = keys.  Terry and everyone, this piano was so flat, I had to on some occasions = notch the pin three four or five times way sharp and match the other strings = to it to get it in pitch only to have it fall again.  Is it me when it = falls, or the piano.  I'm careful to get a little above beatless and then = gently put it back.  UGH!!! I'd love to try out a new piano just once. These = old ones a! re about to drive me n uuts. <o:p></o:p> </div> <div> <st1:City><st1:place>Marshall</st1:= place></st1:City><o:p></o:p> </div> <div>  <o:p></o:p> </div> <blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #1010FF = 1.5pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt; margin-left:3.75pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'> -------------- Original message = -------------- From: "Farrell" <mfarrel2@tampabay.rr.com> = <o:p></o:p> <div> <div> I'm curious, how long does = it take everyone here to tune?  It's still taking me 3hours ;(  Will a = new lever speed me up?<o:p></o:p></p= > </div> <div>  <o:p></o:p></fo= nt> </div> <div> I'm real regular at 2 hours = for a pitch raise and tuning. Today I tuned a newer K&C (Samick) = Studio (first time appointment for piano/client). It was 25 cents flat. Drove = up the driveway at <st1:time Hour="10" Minute="0">10:00 AM</st1:time>, and backed out the driveway at = <st1:time Hour="0" Minute="4">12:04 AM</st1:time>. A full tuning on a = piano that hasn't been tuned in a year ranges anywhere between 50 and 90 = minutes for me - usually about 75 minutes.<o:p></o:p></p= > </div> <div>  <o:p></o:p></fo= nt> </div> <div> A good lever will help you = speed up - not immediately, but with time. I found that I kept hitting plateaus - = I wouldn't get faster for a long time and then suddenly I would seem to = leap (or at least inch along) to a new level. I have also found that so much = about tuning faster is simply finding peace with what can and can't be done = with any particular string/piano. A string that has false beats isn't going to = tune cleanly no matter how many times you yank the pitch up and down - the = trick is to develop an ability to recognize what ain't going to get any = better.<o:p></o:p></p= > </div> <div>  <o:p></o:p></fo= nt> </div> <div> Terry = Farrell<o:p></o:p></p= > </div> <div>  <o:p></o:p></fo= nt> </div> <div> ----- Original Message ----- = <o:p></o:p> </div> </div> <blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid black = 1.5pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt; margin-left:3.75pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5.0pt'= > <div> I'll have to check out = piano tech's catelog for those mutes.  I didn' t see them in schaff?  The = metal sticks get in the way especially in the trebble.  = <o:p></o:p> </div> <div>  <o:p></o:p> </div> <div> I'm curious, how long does = it take everyone here to tune?  It's still taking me 3hours ;(  Will a = new lever speed me up?<o:p></o:p> </div> <div> <st1:City><st1:place>Marshall</st1:= place></st1:City><o:p></o:p> </div> </blockquote> </blockquote> </div> </body> </html>