<DIV>Hi Avery,</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Just because what I said IS true, still doesn't mean that every university and piano teacher in the world would do away with their Steinway's and get Hinze uprights.  Please take into consideration that I never meant someone should always practice on an old upright and never on any good grand.  I do know that if that university professor or piano teacher is any good, they do stress that all important fact.  It is never wise to use your practice time solely on a great instrument that does most of the work for you.  You NEVER learn real technique that way.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Do you want piano lessons too?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Matthew</DIV> <DIV><BR><B><I>Avery Todd <avery@ev1.net></I></B> wrote:</DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE class=replbq style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">Hi Rich, <BR><BR>Well, I didn't think I'd "have" to explain that expression with what's already been posted! :-) <BR>I was just agreeing with it. <BR><BR>But if what Matthew said is true, every university and piano teacher in the world would have their students practicing on 30+ yr. old pianos that have never had anything done to them. Else why do universities and multiple other people spend thousands of dollars getting decent pianos for students to practice on. There's no way in h*** that a good student can develop any kind of good technique, tone control, or anything else on a piano that isn't the best it can possibly be. <BR><BR>And there's a limit there because no vertical in the world, no matter how good it is (as far as I know) can begin to compare to a good grand in equally good condition! How can one develop control of repetition if there's no repetition adjustment? I could go on and on, but I won't. If one agrees with Matthew, I'm sorry! It just isn't true. As I said, Bull Hockey! :-) <BR><BR>Avery <BR><BR>At 05:01 PM 9/24/04, you wrote:<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE class=cite cite="" type="cite">There are a lot of statements below! Could you please be more specific with "Bull hockey"? And also tell  your reasons for answering. Your opinion is valued. Rich<BR>Richard Oliver Snelson<BR> <DL> <DD>----- Original Message ----- <BR> <DD>From:</B> <A href="mailto:avery@ev1.net">Avery Todd</A> <BR> <DD>To:</B> <A href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">Pianotech</A> <BR> <DD>Sent:</B> Friday, September 24, 2004 4:50 PM<BR> <DD>Subject:</B> Re: tax deductions?<BR><BR> <DD>Bull hockey! <BR><BR> <DD>Avery <BR><BR> <DD>At 09:23 PM 9/23/04, you wrote:<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE class=cite cite="" type="cite"> <DD>Richard said:<BR> <DD><BR>  <DD>"I tell them that children and or adults will practice more and can get much more from the practice with a good piano."<BR> <DD><BR>  <DD>That is only good to a certain extent.  After the kid, or adult progresses to a certain level, it will be more beneficial to practice on a not so great piano.  It can do many great wonders to piano technique.<BR> <DD>Matthew<BR><BR><BR> <DD>Richard Oliver Snelson <rsnelson0984@mchsi.com></I></B> wrote: <DL> <DD>That's not what Ryan said, Mr. Hechler. Too bad about your nerve, must be <DD>the same one you often hit when your past rants about M.S. <DD>I will do exactly what Ryan said also. Finding a junk spinet or console in <DD>a nice home with an older child or younger taking serious lessons on it will <DD>bring on a discussion with the mother or father. I don't care if they ever <DD>call me back to tune for them. I tell them that children and or adults will <DD>practice more and can get much more from the practice with a good piano. I <DD>have never had anyone get mad at me, they say wow! No one has had the nerve <DD>to be honest with us about the piano. After all someone gave it too us and <DD>we really thought it would be nice to have a better piano for our <DD>son/daughter to play. Note I didn't say "Grand." And I never follow the <DD>above discussion with the fact that I might h! ave used pianos for sale.<BR> <DD>Play your antique piano all you want Mr. Hechler I'll keep on enjoying my <DD>grand piano and having the pleasure of going back to my customers house when <DD>they call to say they purchased a better piano.<BR> <DD>Why should Ryan keep his statement to himself? You never follow that advice. <DD>Now do you? <DD>Richard Oliver Snelson<BR> <DD>----- Original Message ----- <DD>From: "Hechler Family" <DD>To: "Pianotech" <DD>Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2004 3:12 PM <DD>Subject: Re: tax deductions?<BR><BR> <DD>> Ryan, <DD>> <DD>> Boy have you hit a major nerve with me. <DD>> <DD>> Based on your comment, everyone should upgrade to a grand. Nearly 99 <DD>> percent of my business is the pianos you mentioned below. If which 99 <DD>> percent have no space for a grand or don't want a grand. And to top things <DD>> off, I own an antique player piano which is a Story & Clark which I feel <DD>> is a g! ood quality instrument. Finally, I also rebuild antique pump organs <DD>> which are not upgradeable. <DD>> <DD>> So please keep your blanket statements to yourself. <DD>> <DD>> P.S. I recently acquired a player piano rebuilt job for a Gulbransen <DD>> piano. <DD>> <DD>> Ryan Sowers wrote: <DD>> <DD>> <DD>> <DD>>> Very frequently I am encouraging people to upgrade their spinet, <DD>>> consoles, and worn-out uprights. How could I do this in good faith if I <DD>>> don't personally value the instrument enough to warrant owning a good <DD>>> quality one. <DD>> <DD>> -- <DD>> Duaine Hechler <DD>> Piano, Player Piano, Organ, Pump Organ <DD>> Tuning, Servicing & Rebuilding <DD>> Associate Member of the Piano Technicians Guild <DD>> Reed Organ Society Member <DD>> St. Louis, MO 63034 <DD>> (314) 838-5587 <DD>> dahechler@charter.net <DD>> <DD>> _______________________________________________ <DD>> pianot! ech list info: <A href="https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives" eudora="autourl">https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives</A> <DD>> <BR><BR> <DD>_______________________________________________ <DD>pianotech list info: <A href="https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives" eudora="autourl">https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives</A><BR><BR></DD></DL> <DD>__________________________________________________<BR> <DD>Do You Yahoo!?<BR> <DD>Tired of spam? Yahoo! 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