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<DIV><FONT size=2>Go to their website at <A
href="http://www.veritune.com">www.veritune.com</A></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=pierre.gevaert@belgacom.net
href="mailto:pierre.gevaert@belgacom.net">Gevaert Pierre</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=pianotech@ptg.org
href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">pianotech@ptg.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> February 17, 2002 3:27 =
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Verituner: more
opinions</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hi,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I'm a tuner - technician in Belgium =
and since a
few weeks, I</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>discoverd the mail list of PTG .
Nice!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Apparently, lots of tuners are verry =
happy with
the VT Tuner so my question is : where is it possible to purchase one
and</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>what does it cost? Is it also =
possible to find
more technical information<FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3>? =
Here I never
heared about those machines.</FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Thanks----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
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style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=oleg-i@wanadoo.fr href="mailto:oleg-i@wanadoo.fr">Isaac =
OLEG
SIMANOT</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=pianotech@ptg.org
href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">pianotech@ptg.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, February 15, =
2002 10:28
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: Verituner: more
opinions</DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=882052021-15022002><FONT face=Arial =
color=#0000ff
size=2>David,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=882052021-15022002><FONT face=Arial =
color=#0000ff
size=2>Thanks for your comments. I am very happy to hear that you =
have a
such good experiment with your VT100.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=882052021-15022002><FONT face=Arial =
color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=882052021-15022002><FONT face=Arial =
color=#0000ff
size=2>Today I had to prepare and tune 3 Steinway D together for a =
jazz
improvisation performance, and the tunings sounds amazing . =
Each piano
with his own sound and personality, but a clearness and homogeneity =
that
could not be matched by other methods (in a little =
time)</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=882052021-15022002><FONT face=Arial =
color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=882052021-15022002><FONT face=Arial =
color=#0000ff
size=2>What I appreciate the most using this wonderful machine is =
that it
let me work naturally and don't drive my ears in a pre-defined curve =
or
partial progression.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=882052021-15022002><FONT face=Arial =
color=#0000ff size=2>It
follows the piano, as we all do when tuning (but the death tuners =
who tune
by A0 or A88 !)</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=882052021-15022002><FONT face=Arial =
color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=882052021-15022002><FONT face=Arial =
color=#0000ff size=2>I
have a comment for you, you said that you can start with any note, =
but the
A4 is of great importance and is treated differently from the other =
notes
(and gives the pitch you know !) , as Dave Carpenter have write many =
times,
it is very important to begin with that note and obtain a complete =
iH
reading on it before tuning any other.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=882052021-15022002><FONT face=Arial =
color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=882052021-15022002><FONT face=Arial =
color=#0000ff
size=2>Welcome the happy vt100 users family =
!</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=882052021-15022002><FONT face=Arial =
color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN><SPAN class=882052021-15022002><FONT =
face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=882052021-15022002><FONT face=Arial =
color=#0000ff
size=2>Regards</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=882052021-15022002><FONT face=Arial =
color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=882052021-15022002><FONT face=Arial =
color=#0000ff
size=2>Isaac</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT =
face=Tahoma
size=2>-----Message d'origine-----<BR><B>De :</B>
owner-pianotech@ptg.org [mailto:owner-pianotech@ptg.org]<B>De la =
part
de</B> David Love<BR><B>Envoyé :</B> vendredi 15 février =
2002
07:13<BR><B>À :</B> Pianotech<BR><B>Objet :</B> =
Verituner: more
opinions<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>I purchased the Verituner recently and have =
used it now
for about a dozen tunings. I cannot compare it to the RCT or =
Tunelab, as I never used them, but I will say that the =
VT does a
marvelous job when compared to the SAT III. It's =
ability to
measure (or premeasure) any or all notes and up to eight partials =
of each
note in order to calculate an inharmonicity curve resolves =
many of
the complaints I had about the SAT III which, unless monitored =
very
closely, sometimes delivered a less than satisfactory tuning to my =
ear. Though I had learned to work with the SAT III very =
effectively
by use of the DOB, two page memory for one piano, and direct =
interval
tuning, I find the VT to be much easier with more predictable =
results. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>The complaints listed earlier I find largely
unwarranted. One suggestion was that the VT required a two =
pass
tuning. That is not true. You can premeasure any =
sequence of
notes ( though it is suggested you always start with A4) including =
notes
in troublesome transition areas and the machine will use the data =
to
create a curve with smooth transitions. Or, as I believe Ron =
Koval
mentioned, you can measure the whole piano before you start =
tuning.
Not necessary, but It takes about 5 minutes. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Another complaint was about the pitch raise =
function, or
coarse tuning mode as it is called. The coarse tuning system =
requires lining up two arrows rather than stopping a spinner and =
is a bit
awkward at first. When used as a genuine first pass rough =
pitch
raise, it does a perfectly adequate job. Moreover, you can =
set up
the display with three different levels of overpull =
which can
appear simultaneously on the screen. As you progress through =
the
scale and want to change the degree of overpull depending on the =
section
of the piano, you can just aim for the appropriate =
indicator. These
settings are preset to 10/30/36 % overpull but can be adjusted to =
your own
preference. I set mine at 15/30/36 which seems to work a =
little
better for me. I pulled a small Yamaha today which ranged =
from 30c
flat in the bass to 80c flat in the treble. One rough pass, =
one fine
tuning and the fine tuning required very small adjustments.
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>The display itself is perfectly readable and =
gives a lot
of data. The large flat or sharp sign that appears if the =
spinner is
moving too fast to see I found helpful. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>You can adjust the stretch "style" from clean =
(narrow)
to expanded as with the SAT III DOB, but unlike the SAT III, =
changing the
stretch style does not preclude the machine using the =
inharmonicity
readings to calculate an acceptable curve. My =
experience with
the DOB is that you can actually put the piano a bit out of tune =
by
selecting an inappropriate amount of stretch. I have not
experimented fully with the "style" settings in the VT, but my =
impression
is that the machine seeks to find a balance between style =
selections and
what the piano dictates. I think that is a better
system.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>The 300 page memory can be upgraded to 1000 =
pages for an
additional cost (as Paul L mentioned). There are presently a =
few
glitches that are being worked out with the upgraded memory, but I =
wonder
just how important the extra memory is. If you believe =
that
inharmonicity changes with weather, then you would want to =
recalculate at
each tuning anyway. If you don't, then since you can =
premeasure and
a full 2 pass tuning is <U>not </U>required to get excellent =
results, I
don't consider it critical. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>It comes fully loaded with a variety of HT's =
and as
difficult as it is to admit, I actually like the way it tunes =
ET.
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>The simple fact that it measures multiple =
partials
(rather than one targeted partial) on a given note simultaneously =
and uses
that data collectively and progressively to project a curve, puts =
it above
any of the machines that I'm familiar with. There =
are other
features that I haven't mentioned, but I think it is truly state =
of the
art. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>David
Love</FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>