<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; = charset=iso-8859-1"> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2900.2627" name=GENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY id=role_body style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: #000000; = FONT-FAMILY: Arial" bottomMargin=7 bgColor=#ffffff leftMargin=7 topMargin=7 = rightMargin=7> <DIV><FONT size=4>I have observed this effect on a Baldwin M from the = 50's that a client has.  It was signed by Jose Iturbi.  A very neat = effect if recognized and used to the players advantage.  When depressed, the = sustain pedal ,the volume suddenly swells right up.  Really = neat.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=4>Jim</FONT></DIV> <DIV>James Grebe<BR>Piano-Forte Tuning & Repair<BR>Creator of = Handsome Hardwood Caster Cups, piano benches, writing instruments<BR>(314) = 608-4137<BR><A href="http://www.JamesGrebe.com">WWW.JamesGrebe.com</A><BR>1526 = Raspberry Lane<BR>Arnold, MO 63010<BR>BECOME WHAT YOU BELIEVE!<BR><A href="mailto:pianoman@accessus.net">pianoman@accessus.net</A></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = black"><B>From:</B> <A title=Erwinspiano@aol.com href="mailto:Erwinspiano@aol.com">Erwinspiano@aol.com</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A = title=pianotech@ptg.org href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">pianotech@ptg.org</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, June 13, 2005 = 9:34 PM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Steinway O = Redesign</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV><FONT id=role_document face=Arial color=#000000 = size=2> <DIV> </DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: blue 2px = solid"><FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" face=Arial color=#000000 = size=2>>     This is very much the same effect = as a singer properly sustaining a <BR>> note or a Mesa De voce style of = singing where the note being sustained  <BR>> intentionally starts at a = lower volume & is then expanded dynamically & <BR>> then = contracted. Only in the pianos case the duration of the Mesa de voce <BR>> is = longer. It's a wonderful effect . <BR><BR>It certainly is. I'm not sure the = volume goes up after the attack, <BR>but a lot of other stuff = sympathetically kicks in after a second or <BR>so when the soundboard doesn't waste = <STRONG>what energy there is. It <BR>gets... richer, like expecting milk and = getting a shake.</STRONG></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE> <DIV>  <U><FONT size=3><EM>Ron</EM></FONT></U></DIV> <DIV><U><FONT size=3><EM>  I like this description = better.  It's is like more horsepower Or a notch higher or whatever</EM></FONT></U></DIV> <DIV><U><FONT size=3><EM> It's more better sounding.</EM></FONT></U></DIV> <DIV><U><FONT size=3><EM>than the Old design</EM></FONT></U></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: blue 2px = solid"><FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" face=Arial color=#000000 = size=2><STRONG><BR></STRONG><BR><BR><STRONG> I got the plate = back last Monday, looking like a <BR>cinder. I'd loved to have done some = needed modifications, but It <BR>wasn't being fixed - just un-broke. Spent = two long days and half of <BR>a third filling, sanding, spraying, lettering, sweating, and wishing <BR><EM><FONT size=3>I was somewhere else.</FONT></EM></STRONG><EM><FONT size=3> = </FONT></EM></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE> <DIV><EM><FONT size=3>  This is one reason I prefer the loch-n- = stich repair.  These guys sell do it yo sef repair kits & it = doesnt' look that tough even with the plate in the piano. Of course there is still = the filling & usual body work  to attend to after wards. I know = people weld plates but the guys at loch-n- stich say it really isn't possible = or at least risky  Huh?  any way.</FONT></EM> </DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: blue 2px = solid"><FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" face=Arial color=#000000 = size=2>. He'll get back <BR>to me... Yea. Maybe the next one I get in will be = a real job. I'm <BR>curious how a mo-defiled M performs, but this one = wasn't it.</FONT></BLOCKQUOTE> <DIV><FONT size=3>  <EM>I'm just doing up the rib scale & = cut-off  on an M now & I'm also interseted in the = outcome.</EM></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3><EM>  After the stupefying success of the O I = my enthusiasm is frankly </EM></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3><EM> re- energized. </EM></FONT> </DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: blue 2px = solid"><FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" face=Arial color=#000000 = size=2><BR><BR>Looking forward to KC to rest up for a couple of = days. Might even <BR>get my hands clean by week's end.</FONT></BLOCKQUOTE> <DIV> <STRONG> </STRONG> <STRONG>Have fun</STRONG></DIV> <DIV><STRONG>   Dale</STRONG></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: blue 2px = solid"><FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" face=Arial color=#000000 = size=2><BR><BR>Ron = N<BR>_______________________________________________</FONT></BLOCKQUOTE> <DIV></DIV> <DIV> </DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></FONT></BODY></HTML>