<HTML>In a message dated 2/7/02 1:46:53 PM Central Standard Time, avery@ev1.net writes: <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">You can get a fairly good idea by taking off the stack, holding it by the end brackets with the hammers toward the floor and swinging it some. You'll see really loose ones swinging easily, plus the ones that are fairly tight are of course, much slower. </BLOCKQUOTE> Avery That is one way I have been doing it, but it doesn't seem very accurate for me. I have been able to get some to swing, that were too tight, and some that didn't swing, but were too loose. But it's better than nothing. Wim </HTML>