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size=2>H<SPAN class=140572918-24112003>i Don,</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=140572918-24112003></SPAN><SPAN
class=140572918-24112003></SPAN><FONT size=2>I<SPAN =
class=140572918-24112003>'m
well aware that it exits....as I said, I'm just lucky that I have only =
found it
in Steinways. </SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2><SPAN =
class=140572918-24112003>jeannie</SPAN></DIV>
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align=left><FONT
face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>
pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org] <B>On =
Behalf Of
</B>Donald Mannino<BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, November 24, 2003 7:00
AM<BR><B>To:</B> Pianotech<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: verdigris-Goof
off<BR><BR></FONT></DIV><FONT size=3>Jeannie,<BR><BR>Other pianos =
will get
verdigris if someone used poor lubricants. I have seen actions
lubricated with WD-40 which developed lovely green, gunky action =
center
bushings.<BR><BR>Don Mannino<BR><BR>At 10:22 PM 11/23/2003 -0800, you
wrote:<BR></FONT>
<BLOCKQUOTE class=cite cite="" type="cite"><FONT face=arial
size=3>Tom,</FONT><BR><FONT face=arial size=3>Did they really =
have
verdigris, or were they just tight? Had you tried shrinking =
the
centers before you tried the "Goof Off"? Perhaps that =
would have
taken care of the sluggishness?? I have yet to find verdigris =
on
anything but a Steinway...call me lucky. =
</FONT><BR> <BR><FONT
face=arial size=3>jeannie</FONT><BR><BR><FONT size=2>Jeannie =
Grassi,
RPT<BR>Associate Editor, Piano Technicians Journal<BR><A
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href="mailto:jcgrassi@earthlink.net">mailto:jcgrassi@earthlink.net</A><=
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<DD>-----Original Message-----
<DD>From:</B> pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [<A
href="mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org"
eudora="autourl">mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org</A>] On Behalf =
Of
</B>Tom Driscoll
<DD>Sent:</B> Sunday, November 23, 2003 10:11 PM
<DD>To:</B> pianotech@ptg.org
<DD>Subject:</B> verdigris-Goof off<BR><BR></FONT><FONT =
face=arial size=2>
<DD>Dear List,</FONT><FONT size=3></FONT><FONT face=arial =
size=2>
<DD> Somewhere on this list I believe was =
mentioned the
use of "GOOF-OFF" solvent for treatment of verdigris in action =
centers.I
have a clients Knabe upright -1890's that I've thrown the kitchen =
sink at
to ease the sluggishness. This piano has the worst case of this =
gunk I've
ever seen and on ALL the centers. protek, Goose juice ,Goose + =
ballistol .
Nothing helped , not even short term .</FONT><FONT =
size=3></FONT><FONT
face=arial size=2>
<DD> I remembered a posting about this Goof Off =
as a
treatment and thought why not. This stuff is EVIL! Made with =
Xylene and
Toulene Use in a very well ventilated area or better yet outside =
cause it
is strong! </FONT><FONT size=3></FONT><FONT face=arial =
size=2>
<DD> I applied liberally ,working the parts =
applied
again ,moving and juicing the centers and it did wash the crap =
out!The
down side is that several centers are now too loose and need
repining.</FONT><FONT size=3></FONT><FONT face=arial size=2> =
<DD> I'll bet the condition will return, but on =
a piano
such as this that does not support the investment of all new =
action parts
I'm hoping for some reasonably long term success . </FONT><FONT
size=3></FONT><FONT face=arial size=2>
<DD> Keep you posted.</FONT><FONT =
size=3></FONT><FONT
face=arial size=2>
<DD> Tom, Verdigris buster -Driscoll</FONT><FONT
size=3></FONT><FONT face=arial size=2>
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