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<BODY>Lance: <BR><BR>I don't know the answer to your questions, but you could ask the manufacturers: Wally Brooks (for Abel), Lloyd Meyer (for Renner), and Ari Isaac. Don't discount Ronsen hammers either. I wouldn't take the approach of "selling" someone on a hammer. When you are going to do a hammer job, put on a sample or two if you are not sure what will sound best. Usually one around note 40 and one around note 60 will give a good indication if you think the customer is capable of choosing. I usually carry a few sample hammers of each of the manufacturers that I tend to use, shanks can be made to work on any piano. I sometimes like to hear what the differences are myself to see what the piano will deliver. My tendency, however, is to stick to one or two types of hammers: One very resilient hammer that will develop nicely for a lively board, and one <U>slightly</U> firmer when that is needed. I don't put really hard hammers on much of anything. There are exceptions, of course, and with certain manufacturers I tend to stick with the program, as it were. I think you will find a range of tastes among rebuilders for make and style of hammer. I think it's important to work toward developing your own sense of what constitutes good tone. Unfortunately, there are no shortcuts, it comes from years of careful and comparative listening.<BR><BR>David Love<BR>davidlovepianos@earthlink.net<BR><BR><BR>> [Original Message]<BR>> From: Lance Lafargue <lancelafargue@bellsouth.net><BR>> To: Caut \(E-mail\) <caut@ptg.org><BR>> Date: 4/1/2003 5:00:38 PM<BR>> Subject: Hammers (resend)<BR>><BR>> I thought I'd post this again; got no takers the first time. You may<BR>> respond personally if you feel the need..... Thanks in advance.<BR>><BR>> In our recent thread on Isaac hammers I began to wonder who makes hammers<BR>> for manufactures... I see the list from Renner's web site on who they make<BR>> hammers for, but I am also told that Abel is huge (the largest) in Europe<BR>> and makes hammers for many of the same brands Renner mentions. Does anyone<BR>> have a source (I've tried to get it visiting several MFG web sites) for who<BR>> makes what for whom? Does a mfr use Isaac hammers?, etc... What hammers are<BR>> _only_ used for aftermarket rebuilders? I'd like to be able to use that<BR>> info to sell certain hammers for certain pianos, considering what the<BR>> customer is telling me they like, especially when it is not a familiar name<BR>> to the customer at hand. Some ONLY want Steinway, some know Abel, some know<BR>> Renner,etc., etc. Thankfully, most of my customers leave it to me ; ) I<BR>> have two brands that I like.<BR>> Thanks.<BR>><BR>> Lance Lafargue, RPT<BR>> Mandeville, LA<BR>> New Orleans Chapter, PTG<BR>> lancelafargue@bellsouth.net<BR>> 985.72P.IANO<BR>><BR>> _______________________________________________<BR>> caut list info: https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives<BR>><BR>> _______________________________________________<BR>> caut list info: https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives<BR></BODY></HTML>