<HTML style="FONT-SIZE: x-small; FONT-FAMILY: MS Sans Serif"><HEAD> <META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1"> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2900.2668" name=GENERATOR></HEAD> <BODY style="BACKGROUND-POSITION: 0px 0px; FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 5px 10px 10px; FONT-FAMILY: Arial" bgColor=#ffffff background="" scroll=yes ORGYPOS="0"> <DIV> <DIV><FONT face="MS Sans Serif" size=2>I don't mean this to sound snotty, Robin, but I'm glad you're not MY tuner. </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face="MS Sans Serif" size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face="MS Sans Serif" size=2>I'm not opposed to ETD tunings, I also tune this way, mostly. I AM opposed to the notion that learning aural is no longer necessary. </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face="MS Sans Serif" size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face="MS Sans Serif" size=2>Picasso painted all kinds of strange stuff and experimented endlessly. People like it. He was thoroughly grounded in classical painting, drawing, perspective, etc., before he took off into the land of new art, etc. Now we have "artists," many in colleges, who cannot draw or paint anything in the classical sense, but create "art" with garbage, human body parts, and random globs of whatever. Effete snobs call it art, most folks call it crap.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face="MS Sans Serif" size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face="MS Sans Serif" size=2>All art is based on foundations from past masters. All art.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face="MS Sans Serif" size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face="MS Sans Serif" size=2>If this craft is not art, it is just wholesale "good enough"— and don't complain when the customer treats you like "the help." </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face="MS Sans Serif" size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face="MS Sans Serif" size=2>I can't work that way, and I don't. If I can't make that Winter & Sons sound like a Steinway & Sons, I can at least make it sound like the best Winter & Sons it can possibly be on that day.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face="MS Sans Serif" size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face="MS Sans Serif" size=2>It's my get-rich-slow scheme.</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> <DIV>Alan Barnard</DIV> <DIV>Salem, Missouri</DIV> <DIV> </DIV></DIV></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt Arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=pianoman@westnet.com.au href="mailto:pianoman@westnet.com.au">Robin Stevens</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To: </B><A title=pianotech@ptg.org href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">Pianotech</A></DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> 07/24/2005 9:44:14 PM </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Stretching the Treble</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV><FONT size=2> <TABLE id=INCREDIMAINTABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=2 width="100%" border=0> <TBODY> <TR> <TD id=INCREDITEXTREGION style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; CURSOR: auto; FONT-FAMILY: Arial" width="100%"> <DIV> Unfortunately Susan...There are some of us that have to do the best and fastest job with the least wear and tear on our hearing and health..unlike the dreamers that think that an aural tuning is a mystical work of art!</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Robin Stevens</DIV> <DIV>30 years aural and 15 years ETD</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV id=IncrediOriginalMessage><I>-------Original Message-------</I></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV id=receivestrings> <DIV dir=ltr style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt" <i><B>From:</B></I> <A href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">Pianotech</A></DIV> <DIV dir=ltr style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt" <i><B>Date:</B></I> 07/24/05 15:48:26</DIV> <DIV dir=ltr style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt" <i><B>To:</B></I> <A href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">Pianotech</A></DIV> <DIV dir=ltr style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt" <i><B>Subject:</B></I> Re: Stretching the Treble</DIV></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>At 05:12 PM 7/23/2005 +0930, you wrote:</DIV> <DIV>>Mark...Do yourself a favour and give up "Horse and cart" piano tuning, and</DIV> <DIV>>buy a recognized ETD.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Horses are lovely animals, and require no fossil fuels. You can even grow a</DIV> <DIV>garden by composting what comes out the rear end. The Amish still manage</DIV> <DIV>just fine moving around in their carts. They have time to see the scenery</DIV> <DIV>and smell the flowers. Pianos are sort of throw-back gadgets, as well, and</DIV> <DIV>you don't need to plug them in.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Why do we need to be in such a blinking hurry, anyway?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Susan Kline</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>_______________________________________________</DIV> <DIV>pianotech list info: <A href="https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives">https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives</A></DIV> <DIV> </DIV></TD></TR> <TR> <TD id=INCREDIFOOTER width="100%"> <TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%"> <TBODY> <TR> <TD width="100%"></TD> <TD id=INCREDISOUND vAlign=bottom align=middle></TD> <TD id=INCREDIANIM vAlign=bottom align=middle></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>