<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; = charset=iso-8859-1"> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2800.1276" name=GENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hi Andrew,</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>The CA needs usually more applications = when you treat the upright upright <G> If you have a micro fine needle you = can slip it in at the top of the base of the pin and almost get the glue to do = what it does when the piano is non-upright.</FONT></DIV> <DIV>Joe Goss<BR><A href="mailto:imatunr@srvinet.com">imatunr@srvinet.com</A><BR><A href="http://www.mothergoosetools.com">www.mothergoosetools.com</A></DI= V> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = black"><B>From:</B> <A title=anrebe@zianet.com href="mailto:anrebe@zianet.com">Andrew = & Rebeca Anderson</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A = title=pianotech@ptg.org href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">Pianotech</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, March 08, 2004 = 1:42 PM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Pinblocks, CA = & Dope - an update</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV>Terry,<BR>I just went back to tune a old upright piano = today that I had treated with CA via syringe with the piano standing up, = there was little room for laying it down.  I had the same problem with the = deep bass rapidly swinging the tuning hammer back as soon as I let go of = it.  I followed the treatment with a pitch-raise.  I did the upper = first and then came back down to the pins I had treated.<BR>The second time = around I lowered the pitch first in case any CA had made it down to the pins on = the plate just below the tuning pins.  There was a definite feel of = "breaking loose".  I was worried about that but the torque staid good for = this, the second tuning.  More loose pins have turned up in the treble as = well as a lot of false beats in the killer octave.  I tried leveling the = strings below the pressure bar but that didn't make much difference so I'll be = looking at CAing the pins on the bridge, maybe; removing the strings first = from them might not fit their budget.  Has a lot of loose center pins too, = flat and grooved hammers etc. just have to convince them to buy a new piano.<BR><BR>Andrew<BR><BR>At 09:51 AM 3/8/2004 -0500, you wrote:<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE class=cite cite="" type="cite"><FONT face=arial size=2>FYI:</FONT><BR> <BR><FONT face=arial size=2>I = CA-treated the pinblock of an old upright six months ago. Dozens of pins were so = loose that they immediately spun back on their own after raising the pitch. I = tipped the piano back and applied two bottles of thin CA (after spending 20 = minutes trying to talk the lady into dumping the piano). It was quite = apparent that the pins had been doped some years ago - plate was all stained at = the tuning pins and the feel of the few pins that had any torque was very = spongy. The CA treatment seems to work well a couple days later when I = pitch-raised and tuned the piano.</FONT><BR> <BR><FONT face=arial size=2>I = went back there last night to tune. Three pins had let go. I gave them a tap = or two and they then had a very solid feel. All the other tuning pins had = good to great torque and very good feel.</FONT><BR> <BR><FONT = face=arial size=2>This piano had a full plate with no tuning pin bushings.</FONT><BR> <BR><FONT face=arial size=2>Bottom = line: CA worked great on this previously doped block. Your results may vary.</FONT><BR> <BR><FONT face=arial size=2>Terry Farrell</FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>