<html xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" = xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" = xmlns:w="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" = xmlns:st1="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" = xmlns="http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40"> <head> <META HTTP-EQUIV="Content-Type" CONTENT="text/html; = charset=us-ascii"> <meta name=Generator content="Microsoft Word 11 (filtered medium)"> <o:SmartTagType namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" = name="State"/> <o:SmartTagType = namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="place"/>  <style>  </style>  </head> <body bgcolor=white lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=blue> <div class=Section1> <p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span = style='font-size: 12.0pt'>Ron:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span = style='font-size: 12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p> <p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span = style='font-size: 12.0pt'>There are several people here who can tell 440 from 442.  = It’s not that uncommon.  We have a soprano here who always wants her = piano at 442 (a singer who can tell pitch that = well?!?!?!?!?).<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span = style='font-size: 12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p> <p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span = style='font-size: 12.0pt'>dp<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span = style='font-size: 12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p> <div> <p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face="Times New Roman"><span = style='font-size: 10.0pt'>David M. Porritt</span></font><o:p></o:p></p> <p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face="Times New Roman"><span = style='font-size: 10.0pt'><a = href="mailto:dporritt@smu.edu">dporritt@smu.edu</a></span></font><o:p><= /o:p></p> </div> <div> <div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><font = size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'> <hr size=2 width="100%" align=center tabindex=-1> </span></font></div> <p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span = style='font-size:10.0pt; font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font = size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org] <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>RON MAY, RPT<br> <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, February = 07, 2006 8:45 PM<br> <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> = joegarrett@earthlink.net; Pianotech List<br> <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: 440 vs = 442</span></font><o:p></o:p></p> </div> <p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span = style='font-size: 12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p> <div> <p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span = style='font-size:10.0pt; font-family:Arial'>Hi Joe</span></font><font size=4 face="AGaramond = Bold"><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"AGaramond = Bold"'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p> </div> <div> <p class=MsoNormal><font size=4 face="AGaramond Bold"><span = style='font-size: 13.5pt;font-family:"AGaramond Bold"'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p> </div> <div> <p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span = style='font-size:10.0pt; font-family:Arial'>I'm sorry but I still would have to see it to believe = it. He would have to play a couple more pianos for me. I have had occasions = where the artist or stage manager pulled out a meter and checked the pitch.  = Are you sure he didn't have one. 2 cps out of 440cps, 4 cps out of 880cps 8 cps = out of 1760. I'm sorry Joe,you will have a hard time convincing = me.</span></font><font size=4 face="AGaramond Bold"><span = style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"AGaramond = Bold"'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p> </div> <div> <p class=MsoNormal><font size=4 face="AGaramond Bold"><span = style='font-size: 13.5pt;font-family:"AGaramond Bold"'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p> </div> <div> <p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span = style='font-size:10.0pt; font-family:Arial'>Thanks anyway for the contribution on A440. I am = collecting ideas and back up for the Symphonic Assoc.</span></font><font size=4 face="AGaramond Bold"><span = style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"AGaramond = Bold"'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p> </div> <div> <p class=MsoNormal><font size=4 face="AGaramond Bold"><span = style='font-size: 13.5pt;font-family:"AGaramond Bold"'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p> </div> <div> <p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span = style='font-size:10.0pt; font-family:Arial'>Ron May</span></font><font size=4 face="AGaramond = Bold"><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"AGaramond = Bold"'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p> </div> <div> <p class=MsoNormal><font size=4 face="AGaramond Bold"><span = style='font-size: 13.5pt;font-family:"AGaramond Bold"'>----- Original Message ----- = <o:p></o:p></span></font></p> </div> <blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid black = 1.5pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt; margin-left:3.75pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5.0pt'= > <div style='font-color:black'> <p class=MsoNormal style='background:#E4E4E4'><b><font size=2 = face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>From:</span= ></font></b><font size=2 face=Arial><span = style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> <a href="mailto:joegarrett@earthlink.net" = title="joegarrett@earthlink.net">Joseph Garrett</a> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p> </div> <div> <p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Arial><span = style='font-size:10.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>To:</span></font></b><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> <a href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org" = title="pianotech@ptg.org">pianotech</a> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p> </div> <div> <p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Arial><span = style='font-size:10.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></font></b><font = size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> = Tuesday, February 07, 2006 2:14 PM<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> </div> <div> <p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Arial><span = style='font-size:10.0pt; font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></font></b><font = size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> Re: 440 = vs 442<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> </div> <div> <p class=MsoNormal><font size=4 face="AGaramond Bold"><span = style='font-size: 13.5pt;font-family:"AGaramond Bold"'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p> </div> <div> <p class=MsoNormal><font size=4 face="AGaramond Bold"><span = style='font-size: 13.5pt;font-family:"AGaramond Bold"'>Mr May said: "I have suggested = that there isn't an ear in the world that can hear the difference between 440 = and 442 "<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> </div> <div> <p class=MsoNormal><font size=4 face="AGaramond Bold"><span = style='font-size: 13.5pt;font-family:"AGaramond Bold"'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p> </div> <div> <p class=MsoNormal><font size=4 face="AGaramond Bold"><span = style='font-size: 13.5pt;font-family:"AGaramond Bold"'>NOT! I've personally had = experiences where the Artist knew damned well what pitch the piano was at! One, incidence: = Tete Montilo, a Spanish Jazz Muscician of extremely high caliber. He is blind = and only has good hearing in one ear. During a Jazz Festival, I enjoyed his = playing and told him so. His comment was that the Steinway D was nice but it = would have been nicer if it were at 442. At that time, I didn't consider that he = could really know. After the Festival, he was scheduled to do a private party = in a local Night Club, on a different piano. I was asked to tune for it. On a = whim, I set the piano at 442, just to see if he could tell. I didn't tell anyone.<G> Immediately after the first "set", he had his = sister steer him to me. He was quite jubilant and said: "Thank you, so = much, for tuning the piano at 442. It makes my music better!" Yes, there are = those who can tell the difference. Do I advocate 442? Not no, Hell No! IMO, = it's just stupid. But, that's just my o! pinion. Does it make the piano project = better? I don't think so, but there's no way to really = tell.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> </div> <div> <p class=MsoNormal><font size=4 face="AGaramond Bold"><span = style='font-size: 13.5pt;font-family:"AGaramond Bold"'>On the few, rare occasions, that I = do concert work, where 442 is requested, I will only do it, IF the artist = will pay for the retuning of the instrument back to 440. So far, none have agreed = to that, so they get 440! IMO, the venue should not have to bear the cost = of this nonsense.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> </div> <div> <p class=MsoNormal><font size=4 face="AGaramond Bold"><span = style='font-size: 13.5pt;font-family:"AGaramond = Bold"'>Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> </div> <div> <p class=MsoNormal><font size=4 face="AGaramond Bold"><span = style='font-size: 13.5pt;font-family:"AGaramond Bold"'>Joe Garrett, R.P.T. (<st1:State = w:st="on"><st1:place = w:st="on">Oregon</st1:place></st1:State>)<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> </div> <div> <p class=MsoNormal><font size=4 face="AGaramond Bold"><span = style='font-size: 13.5pt;font-family:"AGaramond Bold"'>Captain, Tool = Police<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> </div> <div> <p class=MsoNormal><font size=4 face="AGaramond Bold"><span = style='font-size: 13.5pt;font-family:"AGaramond Bold"'>Squares R = I<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> </div> <div> <p class=MsoNormal><font size=4 face="AGaramond Bold"><span = style='font-size: 13.5pt;font-family:"AGaramond Bold"'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p> </div> <div> <p class=MsoNormal><font size=4 face="AGaramond Bold"><span = style='font-size: 13.5pt;font-family:"AGaramond Bold"'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p> </div> </blockquote> </div> </body> </html>