<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; = charset=iso-8859-1"> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2900.2668" name=GENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hi Avery - I called up there about an = hour ago and he said some 60 year old Bluthners will have the 4th string and = some won't. If it does, some of the 4th strings in the lower treble will terminate = at half the speaking length on some sort of rod that sticks up - those are = the ones that get tuned an octave sharp (sounded to me like it will be pretty = obvious when I see it). The 4th strings that are the same speaking length as the = other unisons are tuned the same as the other three strings.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Terry Farrell</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">I'd suggest contacting Jim Reeder. He's a Bluthner dealer and also a = rebuilder. <BR>He helped me once on one I had to tune (my first one). <BR><BR><A href="http://www.reederpianos.com/" eudora="autourl">http://www.reederpianos.com/</A><BR><BR>Avery = <BR><BR>At 01:27 PM 8/1/05, you wrote:<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE class=cite cite="" type="cite"><FONT face="Arial, = Helvetica">I had someone reply to me privately on this subject. He suggested = something that no one else had mentioned.<BR></FONT> <BR><I>"...there are = two sections with the extra string. in the lower section you tune the = fourth string an octave higher than the notes to which they correspond and = in the upper section you tune the extra strings in unison to the strings below."<BR></I> <BR><FONT face="Arial, Helvetica">This = information reportedly came from a Bluthner dealer. I'd sure hate to be wrong = and start breaking strings. Anyone else ever hear of this? Is there any = possibility that there were different scales that were tuned differently?<BR></FONT> <BR><FONT face="Arial, = Helvetica">Terry Farrell<BR></FONT><BR> <DL> <DD><FONT face="Arial, Helvetica" size=2>I just booked a = first-time tuning for a Bluthner grand (first time for me to tune it). It is said to = be about 55 years old. Is this piano likely to have the 4th string = aliquot system up in the high treble? If so, is there any special tuning techniques for it? I've never tuned one of these. Just pluck it = and tune it beatless with the other three strings of each note?<BR></FONT> <DD><BR>  <DD><FONT face="Arial, Helvetica" size=2>Terry Farrell<BR></FONT></DD></DL></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>