<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; = charset=iso-8859-1"> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2900.2604" name=GENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hello Roger J and List. </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>These "Jolly loops" are exactly as was = used by Broadwood. I call them the Broadwood Hitch-pin Loop. Because they are so = very secure and have very little movement from new I always use this style of = loop when restringing the metals. So far as the covereds are concerned I = remain happy with the standard twisted loop as supplied by the bass string maker.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Regards from sunny but cold Sussex-on-Sea</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Michael G.(UK)</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = black"><B>From:</B> <A title=roger.j@sasktel.net = href="mailto:roger.j@sasktel.net">Roger Jolly</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A = title=pianotech@ptg.org href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">Pianotech</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, April 08, 2005 = 3:27 PM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: The "Jolly Loop" = (Modified by Kent Swafford)</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV><FONT size=3>Hi = Dean,<BR>          &nbs= p;      James in now offering the Jolly loops, there is an extra charge. the = knot is only about 7mm long ,average. You will have to measure the diameter of = the hitch pin, and he will supply precision loops.  The stretch of = the knot is way less than the traditional English loop. Some pianos, have two = hitch pin diameters in the bass.<BR><BR>We have field tested this system over = several years. Tuning stability caused by knot creep is significantly superior.<BR><BR>Regards Roger<BR><BR><BR><BR>At 06:20 AM 4/8/2005, = you wrote:<BR><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE class=cite cite="" type="cite">I love Arledge = strings. Most of my work is done on middle of the road to<BR>low end pianos and they = sound great. Much more consistent than I was<BR>getting from Mapes. When I = used Mapes I would get sections that did not<BR>sound good. Was it = voicing, dead area of the soundboard or bad strings?<BR>Who knows. Once I asked = them to remake a section which they did and I<BR>got some improvement. I've = never had to do that with Arledge.<BR><BR>At the Indy convention last = October Del spoke about reducing the size of<BR>the loops and getting them up = off the plate to add flexibility in the<BR>backscale. Attached is a link to = a picture of a Walters grand that was<BR>there showing off an unusual = hitch pin Del likes to use.<BR><BR>The next set of strings I ordered from = Arledge I tried to get the<BR>shorter loop and they said they really = couldn't do it. Has that changed?<BR>I want a set with the "Jolly" loops. = ;-)<BR><BR>I haven't tried the unusual pins. But I did try sticking a thin washer<BR>under the loops of one set to get the strings off the = plate. It worked.<BR>Hard to tell how much improvement it actually made.<BR><BR>Dean<BR><BR>Photo at:<BR><BR><A = href="http://tinyurl.com/62yu8" eudora="autourl">http://tinyurl.com/62yu8</A><BR><BR>Direct = ptg.org URL:<BR><BR><A = href="https://www.moypiano.com/ptg/files/attachments/ab/cb/d5/06/DSCF64= 02.JPG" = eudora="autourl">https://www.moypiano.com/ptg/files/attachments/ab/cb/d= 5/06/DSCF6402.JPG</A> <BR><BR>-----Original Message-----<BR>From: = pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [<A href="mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org" eudora="autourl"> mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org</A>] On<BR>Behalf Of Roger = Jolly<BR>Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 9:26 PM<BR>To: files@ptg.org<BR>Subject: = Re: The "Jolly Loop" (Modified by Kent Swafford)<BR><BR><BR>At 08:46 PM = 4/7/2005, you wrote:<BR><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE class=cite cite="" type="cite">I did try a set of = Arledge strings with the Jolly Loop.  S&S model<BR>O.  = While the piano also had a new soundboard with a modified bass<BR>bridge = which shortened the cantilever and extended the backscale a<BR>bit, not = to mention recalculated bass scale (thank you Del = Fandrich),</BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE class=cite cite="" type="cite">the bass quality on = this instrument was exceptional.<BR>  </BLOCKQUOTE><BR><BR>  = Hi = David,<BR>          &nb= sp;         Including photo to answer the curious.  = Theoretical<BR><BR>increase in back scale length, to improve bass bridge response.<BR><BR>  = Regards Roger<BR><BR><BR><BR>Photo at:<BR><BR><A = href="http://tinyurl.com/4ydys" eudora="autourl">http://tinyurl.com/4ydys</A><BR><BR>Direct = ptg.org URL:<BR><BR><A href="https://www.moypiano.com/ptg/files/attachments/0b/0d/04/aa/" = = eudora="autourl">https://www.moypiano.com/ptg/files/attachments/0b/0d/0= 4/aa/</A><BR>Jollybassloop.JPG<BR><BR>___________________________________= ____________<BR>pianotech list info: <A href="https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives" = = eudora="autourl">https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives</A><BR><= BR>_______________________________________________<BR>pianotech list info: <A href="https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives" = = eudora="autourl">https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives</A><BR><= /FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>