<HTML>List, This is always the time of year when the "good old days" seemed so much better.  I prefer good, hard information and discussion too.  When I joined 3 years ago or so, there was lots of discussion about whiskey, beer, dogs and Scottish kilts.  Some people complained if you got "too technical" or if you actually wrote some detailed information.  God forbid if you wrote about something few other people knew about or if you disagreed and proved your point contrary to one of the people who thought they knew everything already and "owned" the List.  I also used to see a lot of what I used the utmost restraint in calling "baloney". The baloney bunch started their own baloney list.  I suggest that it is the place for it and that Pianotech remain as it is, a free and open forum for the discussion of piano technology.  Someone has asked me about tuning hammer styles and there is a nice article about that in the Journal this month.  Too bad I didn't have time to write anything about tuning hammers because I spent all the time I had writing this. Bill Bremmer RPT Madison, Wisconsin</HTML>