<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML xmlns="http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40" xmlns:v = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:o = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:w = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word"><HEAD> <META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; = charset=iso-8859-1"> <META content=Word.Document name=ProgId> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2800.1400" name=GENERATOR> <META content="Microsoft Word 9" name=Originator><LINK href="cid:filelist.xml@01C44924.C0427E50" rel=File-List> <STYLE>@font-face { font-family: MS Sans Serif; } @font-face { font-family: Comic Sans MS; } @page Section1 {size: 8.5in 11.0in; margin: 1.0in 1.25in 1.0in 1.25in; = mso-header-margin: .5in; mso-footer-margin: .5in; mso-paper-source: 0; } P.MsoNormal { FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman"; = mso-style-parent: ""; mso-pagination: widow-orphan; = mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman" } LI.MsoNormal { FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman"; = mso-style-parent: ""; mso-pagination: widow-orphan; = mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman" } DIV.MsoNormal { FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman"; = mso-style-parent: ""; mso-pagination: widow-orphan; = mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman" } A:link { COLOR: blue; TEXT-DECORATION: underline; text-underline: single } SPAN.MsoHyperlink { COLOR: blue; TEXT-DECORATION: underline; text-underline: single } A:visited { COLOR: blue; TEXT-DECORATION: underline; text-underline: single } SPAN.MsoHyperlinkFollowed { COLOR: blue; TEXT-DECORATION: underline; text-underline: single } P.MsoAutoSig { FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman"; = mso-pagination: widow-orphan; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman" } LI.MsoAutoSig { FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman"; = mso-pagination: widow-orphan; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman" } DIV.MsoAutoSig { FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman"; = mso-pagination: widow-orphan; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman" } SPAN.EmailStyle17 { COLOR: navy; mso-style-type: personal-reply; mso-ansi-font-size: = 10.0pt; mso-ascii-font-family: Arial; mso-hansi-font-family: Arial; = mso-bidi-font-family: Arial } DIV.Section1 { page: Section1 } </STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY lang=EN-US style="tab-interval: .5in" vLink=blue link=blue = bgColor=white> <DIV><STRONG><FONT face=Arial>I find that the carriage bolts I use on = separated pinblocks, would hold even without the epoxy. </FONT></STRONG></DIV> <DIV><STRONG><FONT face=Arial>Or am I missing = something?</FONT></STRONG></DIV> <DIV><STRONG><FONT face=Arial>I was using 1/2" ones, but the List = tells me that 3/8" is fine.</FONT></STRONG></DIV> <DIV><STRONG><FONT face=Arial></FONT></STRONG> </DIV> <DIV>John M. Ross<BR>Windsor, Nova Scotia, Canada<BR><A href="mailto:jrpiano@win.eastlink.ca">jrpiano@win.eastlink.ca</A></DIV>= <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = black"><B>From:</B> <A title=rsnelson0984@mchsi.com = href="mailto:rsnelson0984@mchsi.com">Richard Snelson</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A = title=pianotech@ptg.org href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">Pianotech</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, June 03, 2004 = 10:33 AM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Apart at the Seams = (Epoxy??)</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV>Having taken two of these piano backs apart, I don't see how = epoxy poured in the joint is going to hold diddly. The back is failing because of = the poor glue in the joint. Both sides of the failed joint failure is covered = with glue power or residue. I tried to bond a couple of these pieces with epoxy = without cleaning the old glue off. Result! Won't hold. The 6" maching screw = through to the posts are really what's holding if you don't take the top = apart and rebuild it. It a great shop job to rebuild the failure. </DIV> <DIV>Rich</DIV> <DIV>Richard Snelson<BR><A = href="mailto:rsnelson0984@mchsi.com">rsnelson0984@mchsi.com</A></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = black"><B>From:</B> <A title=deanmay@pianorebuilders.com href="mailto:deanmay@pianorebuilders.com">Dean May</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A = title=pianotech@ptg.org href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">Pianotech</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, June 03, 2004 = 4:39 AM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: Apart at the = Seams</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV class=Section1> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="MS Sans Serif" color=navy = size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: 'MS Sans = Serif'">>>Poured a bunch of West System epoxy into the voids. ! I usually drill = downward into the cracks with a 1/8" drill every inch or two to make a = channel for the epoxy to get down into the bottom of the = crack...</SPAN></FONT><SPAN class=EmailStyle17><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-bidi-font-size: = 12.0pt"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal><SPAN class=EmailStyle17><FONT face=Arial = color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-bidi-font-size: = 12.0pt"><![if = !supportEmptyParas]><![endif]> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal><SPAN class=EmailStyle17><FONT face=Arial = color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-bidi-font-size: = 12.0pt"><![if = !supportEmptyParas]><![endif]> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal><SPAN class=EmailStyle17><FONT face=Arial = color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-bidi-font-size: = 12.0pt">Put your epoxy into a syringe (available at farm supply stores) and get = a drill bit the same size as the end of the syringe (leave needle off). Then = start your hole about ½ inch from crack at about a 60 deg angle down, so = that the bit comes out into the crack about an inch below the top. Inject = your epoxy into this hole and it you can watch it fill the crack from the = bottom up. You’ll need to drill holes about every 3-4 inches.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoAutoSig><B><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=navy size=6><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 24pt; COLOR: navy; = FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'; mso-bidi-font-size: = 12.0pt">Dean</SPAN></FONT></B><B><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=navy size=6><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 24pt; COLOR: navy; = FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-color-alt: = windowtext"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></B></P> <P class=MsoAutoSig><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=navy = size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: navy"><![if = !supportEmptyParas]><![endif]> </SPAN></FONT><FONT color=navy><SPAN style="COLOR: navy; mso-color-alt: = windowtext"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=MsoAutoSig><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=navy = size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: navy">Dean May<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">     </SPAN><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: = yes">        </SPAN>cell 812.239.3359</SPAN></FONT><FONT color=navy><SPAN style="COLOR: navy; mso-color-alt: = windowtext"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=MsoAutoSig><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=navy = size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: navy">PianoRebuilders.com<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">   </SPAN>812.235.5272</SPAN></FONT><FONT color=navy><SPAN style="COLOR: navy; mso-color-alt: = windowtext"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=MsoAutoSig><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=navy = size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: navy">Terre Haute IN<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">  </SPAN>47802</SPAN></FONT><FONT color=navy><SPAN style="COLOR: navy; mso-color-alt: = windowtext"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=MsoNormal><= FONT face="MS Sans Serif" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'MS Sans = Serif'"><![if !supportEmptyParas]><![endif]> </SPAN></FONT><FONT face="MS Sans Serif" color=black size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'MS Sans = Serif'; mso-color-alt: = windowtext"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE>= </BODY></HTML>