<!doctype html public "-//w3c//dtd html 4.0 transitional//en"> <html> <body bgcolor="#FFFFFF">   Delwin D Fandrich wrote: <blockquote TYPE=CITE> <blockquote dir=ltr style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000080 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">  Well just so we are on the same page.... I myself, am not trying to prove anything with these numbers... except perhaps to prove that I am on the learning road. I'm in Hoadleys book at a very early stage and am just pushing numbers around to see if I can the formula usages correct, and in some basic perspective. I note also that tension strength along the grain is not even given, and is only very lightly refered too.</blockquote> <div dir="ltr">First, I mentioned no names. Don't take everything so personally.</div>  </blockquote> I wasnt taking this personally Del, but rather just clarifying my own motivations, FWEIW :)   <blockquote TYPE=CITE>  <div dir="ltr">Second, your point is?</div>   <div dir="ltr"></div>  </blockquote> I just noticed there was a reference to tension along the grain that more or less says, we dont really have reliable data because measurement is rather difficult and demand for the information is too small to justify it. So it would seem difficult to make many conclusions about tension with the grain. Cheers RicB -- Richard Brekne RPT, N.P.T.F. UiB, Bergen, Norway <A HREF="mailto:rbrekne@broadpark.no">mailto:rbrekne@broadpark.no</A> <A HREF="http://home.broadpark.no/~rbrekne/ricmain.html">http://home.broadpark.no/~rbrekne/ricmain.html</A> <A HREF="http://www.hf.uib.no/grieg/personer/cv_RB.html">http://www.hf.uib.no/grieg/personer/cv_RB.html</A>   </body> </html>