<html> <body> D.on't A.sk M.e H.ow I K.now At 02:39 PM 9/22/2005, you wrote: <blockquote type=cite class=cite cite=""> Hello Joe – I’ve forgotten what “DAMHIK” stands for – I vaguely re= call the last word is “knowledge”  Usually I have the keyframe on the bench. After all without the “naturals” no-one can play it! I would suggest trying the method of: Do five keys and five tops and immediately, on touch-dry status, putting them together. Then on with the next five. No over-night drying. No mess. No fuss. Job done. As ever, almost clinical preparation is a must. But it’s fast! Regards Michael G.(UK) <hr> <div align="center"></div> From: Joe And Penny Goss [<a href="mailto:imatunr@srvinet.com" eudora="autourl"> mailto:imatunr@srvinet.com</a>] Sent: 22 September 2005 18:05 To: Pianotech Subject: Re: Key Clamps   Hi Michael, Nor have we if enough glue is used and the keys clamped together after the glue has dried over night and held tight for a second. I have been applying the coat to the key stick and allowing it to dry, and then applying glue to the top and apply to each key top sepertly, and while the glue is still wet, puting it on the key stick. This allows for small changes in the position of the key top on the stick. When one sets the key aside you do need to let the front ( front and top molded key ) hang over the side of the bench. DAMHIK <dl> <dd>----- Original Message ----- <dd>From: <a href="mailto:michael@gambles.fsnet.co.uk">Michael Gamble</a> <dd>To: <a href="mailto:toddpianoworks@yahoo.com">'Matthew Todd'</a> ; <a href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">pianotech@ptg.org</a> <dd>Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2005 11:23 AM <dd>Subject: RE: Key Clamps <dd>  <dd>Hello Matthew T and List <dd>It all depends on the glue you use as to whether clamps are required or not. I have been flakked for using “Impact Adhesive” glue from “Bostik” (google that) for attaching new key tops. It has been suggested “it doesn’t last” but I’ve had no problems to date and the first I d= id that way was about ten years agone. The “up side” is that you apply a thin coat to both sides for gluing, wait until “touch dry” and then pres= s them together. You only have one chance at this, so alignment has to be accurate first time. This stuff is used to attach formica to a substrate in caravans and kitchen work surfaces. <dd>Regards <dd>Michael G.(UK) <dd>  <hr> <div align="center"></div> <dd>From: Matthew Todd [<a href="mailto:toddpianoworks@yahoo.com" eudora="autourl"> mailto:toddpianoworks@yahoo.com</a>] <dd>Sent: 22 September 2005 15:12 <dd>To: pianotech@ptg.org <dd>Subject: Key Clamps <dd>  <dd>Hi everyone, <dd>  <dd>I will be doing my third set of keytop replacement soon (don't worry, they're all on practice pianos!). <dd>  <dd>I did the first two sets without clamping.  I would like to do this next set with clamps to see the difference.  Any ideas? <dd>  <dd>  <dd>Thank you! <dd>Matthew <div align="center"> </div> <dd>Yahoo! for Good <dd><a href="http://store.yahoo.com/redcross-donate3/">Click here to donate</a> to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort. </dl></blockquote></body> </html>