<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; = charset=iso-8859-1"> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2900.2523" name=GENERATOR></HEAD> <BODY> <DIV><SPAN class=446362501-04112004><FONT face="Trebuchet MS" = color=#0000ff size=2>So when you, David Ilvedson, tune unisons as you go, what's = your muting procedure? I ask because I am constantly changing mine and I wonder how = much variation there is and what the best practices are. Economy of movement, = etc.</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=446362501-04112004><FONT face="Trebuchet MS" = color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=446362501-04112004><FONT face="Trebuchet MS" = color=#0000ff size=2>[and btw, David Andersen, I apologize for misspelling your last = name in the previous posting -- I know it irritates me (mildly) when people = spell mine with an O instead of an E.]</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT = face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> = pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org]<B>On Behalf Of </B>David Ilvedson<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, November 03, 2004 3:41 = PM<BR><B>To:</B> pianotech@ptg.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: one rubber = mute<BR><BR></FONT></DIV> <DIV align=left><FONT face="Trebuchet MS" size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12px"><SPAN class=888560817-03112004><FONT size=2></FONT></SPAN></SPAN></FONT>Listen...most of us can afford = more than one mute, but David lives in a depressed area and maybe we should all = chip in for another mute or maybe even a temp strip...;-]</DIV> <DIV align=left> </DIV> <DIV align=left>Seriously...(if that's possible)this is an old style = tuning technique best left to the past, imho.  Extremely = ineffiecient unless, as David apparently has, one has the ability to get it right = the first time.   Otherwise retuning all strings with each tweek is...NUTS!   again imho.   I, on the other hand, = also tune my unisons as I go but I have an SAT III which gets me quickly = and accurately in nearly the right place every time.   Gave up = the temp strip years ago when it became apparent the middle string was changing = by the time I got back to bringing in the outside strings.   </DIV> <DIV align=left> </DIV> <DIV align=left>David I.</DIV> <DIV align=left><FONT face="Trebuchet MS" size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12px"><SPAN class=888560817-03112004><FONT size=2></FONT></SPAN></SPAN></FONT> </DIV> <DIV align=left><FONT face="Trebuchet MS" size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12px"><SPAN class=888560817-03112004><FONT = size=2>----- Original message ----------------------------------------><BR>From: = jason kanter <<A = href="mailto:jkanter@rollingball.com">jkanter@rollingball.com</A>><B= R>To: Pianotech <<A = href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">pianotech@ptg.org</A>><BR>Received: = Wed, 3 Nov 2004 09:22:33 -0800<BR>Subject: one rubber mute</FONT></SPAN></SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV align=left><FONT face="Trebuchet MS" size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12px"><SPAN class=888560817-03112004><FONT size=2><BR>Dave</FONT> <FONT size=2>Anderson</FONT> <FONT size=2>sez</FONT>:</SPAN></SPAN></FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV><FONT face="Trebuchet MS" size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: = 12px">I tune A440, then A220 to that, tuning the right string of each note first, = then the middle, then the left. I check, usually with the F3 below, to = see that I’m on pitch.<BR>Then I go ahead and set the temperament (F3 to = F4), putting each note in relationship with its neighbors,<SPAN = class=888560817-03112004> </SPAN>tuning as I go.  I make small adjustments to the notes = through the practice of “shimming” the unisons, or “cracking” the = unisons: say I’ve got 4 notes of the temperament tuned, and I decide the 2nd note I = tuned needs to move a little. I move one outside string (usually) a = slight, slight bit in the direction I want it to go, then match it with the middle = string, and check where it is.  If I like it, I leave it; if I don’t, = I move it some more.</SPAN></FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE> <DIV><FONT face="Trebuchet MS" color=#008080 size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12px"><SPAN class=888560817-03112004><FONT = size=2>WHen I'm in the temperament section, I'm constantly using reference strings for = checks -- testing fifths with the major sixth below the lower note of the = fifth, for example. How do you do this efficiently using a single rubber = mute</FONT>? </SPAN></SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face="Trebuchet MS" color=#008080 size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12px"><SPAN class=888560817-03112004></SPAN></SPAN></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#008080><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12px"><SPAN class=888560817-03112004> <DIV><FONT face=System size=1>| |   | | |   | |   | | |   | |   | | |   | |   | | |   | |   | | |   | |   | | |   | |  </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face="Trebuchet MS" size=2>Jason Kanter . piano tuning = regulation repair</FONT></DIV> <DIV><A href="mailto:jkanter@rollingball.com"><FONT = face="Trebuchet MS" size=2>jkanter@rollingball.com</FONT></A><FONT face="Trebuchet MS" = size=2> . cell 425 830 1561</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face="Trebuchet MS" size=2>serving the = eastside and the san = juans</FONT></DIV></SPAN></SPAN></FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>