<HTML>In a message dated 10/3/02 1:14:28 PM Central Daylight Time, SidewaysWell1713@aol.com writes: <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">C   +1.2 C#  -0.8 D   +0.9 D#  +.09 E    -2.0 F    +1.8 F#   -2.7 G   +3.1 G#  +1.2 A      0.0 A#  +2.4 B      0.0 </BLOCKQUOTE> OOPS, this is my main reason for not ever trusting this method of passing along information.  It is far too easy to make transcribing errors.  If you don't know or understand what you're doing aurally, how would you ever know that you had made a mistake? Here are Jorgensen's figures: C    +3.8 C#   -0.8 D    +0.9 D#   +3.1 E     -2.0 F     +1.8 F#   -2.7 G    +3.1 G#   +1.2 A       0.0 A#    +2.4 B       0.0 Jorgensen listed them in a different order, so between the sandwhich and the banana, a few of the numbers got crossed.  I wonder if this has ever happened to anyone trying to dial in offsets to an ETD program, hmmm?  Once I got an inquiry from someone whose name I'll not disclose but who is highly respected for his work.  He wondered if the -10 figure for the note C was correct for 1/4 Meantone or if it should be +10?  He casually added that he didn't know the difference, didn't go by *descriptions*, just the numbers. How many errors might there be in some of these lists of temperament "correction figures" I have seen out there?  Have these errors ever caused anyone to have an opinion which was based on a faulty transcription or analysis?  Think about that and use your ears to tune, not your eyes, as Frans Mohr says. Bill Bremmer RPT Madison, Wisconsin www.Billbremmer.com</HTML>