<HTML>In a message dated 10/24/2002 4:24:35 AM Pacific Daylight Time, mfarrel2@tampabay.rr.com writes:             Terry             I use  the Bolduc blocks routinely and like them. However  I find it necessary to drill towards the back of the hole. I clean out the plate hole with a drill bit to remove paint and a small amount of steel as a matter of process and then with the block srewed to the plate,  take a sharp pencil and scribe a circle. This gives me a target so I know right where the hole is.(I drill out of the piano) I then drill slightly off center with a brad point to help guide (towards the keyboard. I drill out of the piano. I find this to be  an accurate method that eliminates the lean. Yes the pins lean some and although I've used  no.1  pins often ,I do find they are not the best choice if the plate webbing is too thick as they do bend more than the no. 2's. So now I use no. 2's in that case.         Funny you should mention delignit. I just bored up my first block. Not strung yet. I find it to be as smooth as Maple and oddly I drill it with the same size bit. I can't tell the difference between the two. Its also something like  athird of the price. Wow!!      Dale <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">I see so many pianos where the tuning pin rides the back end of the plate hole. Maybe they drilled the tuning pin hole in the block there. Or did the pin move after stringing? Ron may be right - just let it ride. He answered my question with the Delignit block - expect no movement. Can anyone tell me how much if any movement of position will occurr for a tuning pin set in a Bolduc block between drilling and after string tension is applied. I suspect there typically is some measureable movement. Terry Farrell</BLOCKQUOTE> </HTML>