<HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-= 1"> <META content="IncrediMail 1.0" name=GENERATOR>  </HEAD> <BODY style="BACKGROUND-POSITION: 0px 0px; FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 5px= 10px 10px; FONT-FAMILY: Arial" bgColor=#ffffff background="" scroll== yes ORGYPOS="0"> <TABLE id=INCREDIMAINTABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=2 width="100= %" border=0> <TBODY> <TR> <TD id=INCREDITEXTREGION style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; CURSOR: auto; FONT-F= AMILY: Arial" width="100%"> <DIV> I think that all you... "will not tune overdamper pianos" grou= p should be trained to tune these pianos using Paps mutes or a similar de= vice as part of your RPT exam. You all display your "RPT" status proudly,= but, will not work on old pianos! I wonder what you would think if your = doctor said to you on your next visit....sorry I only deal with= young patients!! </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Many of these old overdampers are easier to tune, and some have bett= er pin blocks than some underdampers. It only takes a slight change of me= thod. Reading what some of you guys are doing trying to insert your tunin= g strips is quite comical. You obviously have not heard of the saying...T= here has to be a better way!!</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Robin Stevens ARPT</DIV> <DIV>South Australia</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV id=IncrediOriginalMessage><I>-------Original Message-------</I></D= IV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV id=receivestrings> <DIV dir=ltr style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt" <i><B>From:</B></I> <A href="m= ailto:ilvey@sbcglobal.net">ilvey@sbcglobal.net</A>; <A href="mailto:pia= notech@ptg.org">Pianotech</A></DIV> <DIV dir=ltr style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt" <i><B>Date:</B></I> 10/09/05 01:= 14:54</DIV> <DIV dir=ltr style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt" <i><B>To:</B></I> <A href="mai= lto:pianotech@ptg.org">pianotech@ptg.org</A></DIV> <DIV dir=ltr style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt" <i><B>Subject:</B></I> Re: Reinb= ach Piano</DIV></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I don't work on birdcages anymore but....I remember tipping the acti= on towards me so I could insert temp strips on all the unisons leaving ju= st one string to deal with when tuning.   Then when I couldn't = take it anymore, I'd remove the temp strips and do the unisons...</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>David Ilvedson, RPT</DIV> <DIV>Pacifica, California</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>----- Original message ----------------------------------------</DIV= > <DIV>From: "Will Wickham" <<A href="mailto:wwickham@stny.rr.com">wwi= ckham@stny.rr.com</A>></DIV> <DIV>To: Pianotech <<A href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">pianotech@ptg= .org</A>></DIV> <DIV>Received: 10/8/2005 4:15:09 AM</DIV> <DIV>Subject: Re: Reinbach Piano</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>>This isn't my first trip into the birdcage. Great deal of fun. I= t is</DIV> <DIV>>the first time I've had to resort to muting through the action t= hough.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>>Until I either know something about Reinbach pianos in general o= r this</DIV> <DIV>>beasty in particular, I will keep going back to do my best to ma= ke it</DIV> <DIV>>work well!</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>>will wickham</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>>On Oct 8, 2005, at 6:03 AM, Farrell wrote:</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>>> Don't know anything about Reinbach, but birdcages I have ha= d the</DIV> <DIV>>> displeasure to meet. Make a policy - either run or charge y= our hourly</DIV> <DIV>>> fee plus a frustration factor. I charge 1.5 times my regula= r hourly</DIV> <DIV>>> on-site fee ($60 x 1.5 = $90).</DIV> <DIV>>></DIV> <DIV>>> And make it clear to the owner - you'll tune it, but it is = untunable -</DIV> <DIV>>> so don't expect much. Be sure to cover the lecture about up= grading to</DIV> <DIV>>> something like a 1950 Lester spinet or somesuch POS.</DIV> <DIV>>></DIV> <DIV>>> Just curious, why are you going back for a "second crack at= it?"</DIV> <DIV>>> Wasn't the first visit scary enough?</DIV> <DIV>>></DIV> <DIV>>> Terry Farrell</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>>_______________________________________________</DIV> <DIV>>pianotech list info: <A href="http://www.ptg.org/mailman/listi= nfo/pianotech">https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives</A></DIV> <DIV>_______________________________________________</DIV> <DIV>pianotech list info: <A href="http://www.ptg.org/mailman/listinfo/= pianotech">https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives</A></DIV> <DIV> </DIV></TD></TR> <TR> <TD id=INCREDIFOOTER width="100%"> <TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%"> <TBODY> <TR> <TD width="100%"></TD> <TD id=INCREDISOUND vAlign=bottom align=middle></TD> <TD id=INCREDIANIM vAlign=bottom align=middle></TD></TR></TBODY></T= ABLE></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></BODY></HTML>