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<DIV>Joe Goss<BR><A
href="mailto:imatunr@srvinet.com">imatunr@srvinet.com</A><BR><A
href="http://www.mothergoosetools.com">www.mothergoosetools.com</A></DI=
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=agilreath@mindspring.com =
href="mailto:agilreath@mindspring.com">Allan
Gilreath</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=pianotech@ptg.org
href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">'Pianotech'</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, October 26, 2003 =
8:14
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: Baldwin pre-cut =
string</DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">How about =
if we call
them Vise grips instead of Vice grips? There might be a =
difference…
(Kind of like the sign on the door reading “ladies” instead of =
“laddies”.)
<chuckle></SPAN></FONT></P>
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size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: navy">Allan</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoAutoSig><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=navy =
size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: navy">Allan L. =
Gilreath</SPAN></FONT><FONT
color=navy><SPAN style="COLOR: navy">, RPT</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: =
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size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">-----Original
Message-----<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B> =
<A
=
href="mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org">pianotech-bounces@ptg.org</A>
[mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org] <B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: =
bold">On
Behalf Of </SPAN></B>John Ross<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Friday, September 26, =
2003 7:56
AM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> =
Pianotech<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: Baldwin pre-cut
string</SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><STRONG><B><FONT =
face=Arial
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Hi
Michael,</SPAN></FONT></B></STRONG></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><STRONG><B><FONT =
face=Arial
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Mole =
wrenches, are
called vice grips over here.</SPAN></FONT></B></STRONG></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><STRONG><B><FONT =
face=Arial
size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial">Regards,</SPAN></FONT></B></STRONG></P></DIV>
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New Roman"
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">John M. Ross<BR>Windsor, Nova =
Scotia,
Canada<BR><A
=
href="mailto:jrpiano@win.eastlink.ca">jrpiano@win.eastlink.ca</A></SPAN=
></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; MARGIN-LEFT: =
0.5in"><B><FONT
face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial"> <A
title=michael@gambles.fsnet.co.uk
href="mailto:michael@gambles.fsnet.co.uk">Michael Gamble</A>
</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><B><FONT =
face=Arial
size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial">To:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial"> <A
title=pianotech@ptg.org
href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">pianotech@ptg.org</A>
</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><B><FONT =
face=Arial
size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial">Sent:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial">
Thursday, October 23, 2003 3:39 PM</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><B><FONT =
face=Arial
size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial">Subject:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial"> Fw:
Baldwin pre-cut string</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT =
face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: =
12pt"></SPAN></FONT> </P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial =
size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Hello Glen &
Del</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial =
size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">This pre-cut string is =
a strange
idea. I thought pianos were always strung up from, as Del says, =
spools of
overhead string.</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial =
size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">But I'd like to add a =
little
something a-propos the kinks or bends in string. I have a policy =
when tuning
an old piano, and whenever it <EM><I><FONT face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial">is</SPAN></FONT></I></EM> possible, to =
use the
old string by simply loosening off its companion, straightening out =
the old
string where it had been on the hitch, and threading it up to the =
old
wrest-pin and tuning up. I find that when doing this the tonal =
quality stays
the same and they don't stretch like a replacement new string. You =
just land
up with maybe two coils or less on the two wrest-pins in question. =
The
strings eventually straighten out pretty well. I find using a =
"mole-wrench"
on the hitch pin a good idea to hold the string in place while =
fiddling
around with the loose end. Is "mole wrench" an international term? =
It's an
adjustable gripping tool which can grip with incredible force if =
needed and
is adjusted by a knurled knob sticking out of the end of one of the =
handles.
Good description? :-)</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial =
size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Michael G
(UK)</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">----- Original Message =
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<P class=MsoNormal style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; MARGIN-LEFT: =
0.5in"><B><FONT
face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial"> <A
title=pianobuilders@olynet.com =
href="mailto:pianobuilders@olynet.com">Delwin
D Fandrich</A> </SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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face=Arial
size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial">To:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial"> <A
title=pianotech@ptg.org =
href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">Pianotech</A>
</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><B><FONT =
face=Arial
size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial">Sent:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial">
Thursday, October 23, 2003 5:31 PM</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><B><FONT =
face=Arial
size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial">Subject:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial"> Re:
Baldwin pre-cut string</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><B><FONT =
face=Arial
size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial"> <A
title=Crashvalve@aol.com
href="mailto:Crashvalve@aol.com">Crashvalve@aol.com</A>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><B><FONT =
face=Arial
size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial">To:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial"> <A
title=pianotech@ptg.org
href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">pianotech@ptg.org</A>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><B><FONT =
face=Arial
size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial">Sent:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial">
October 22, 2003 5:13 AM</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><B><FONT =
face=Arial
size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial">Subject:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial">
Baldwin pre-cut string</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
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face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: =
12pt"></SPAN></FONT> </P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT =
face=Geneva
color=black size=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Geneva">When =
I visited
Conway in 73' they had precut and straightened wire to string the
verticals. I know a straighter wire gives truer harmonics, =
Question is;
does zig-zag roller straightening of piano wire have any downside =
like
false beats etc ? If rollers are good, did Baldwin use then in two =
or four
planes ?<BR>regards<BR>Glenn C.</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Arial
FAMILY="SANSSERIF"><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial">
</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT =
face="Comic Sans MS"
color=navy size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans =
MS'">Unless
there is a kink in the wire, any wire stretched to 150+ lbs of =
tension is
going to be pretty straight. With this in mind I'm not sure what you =
mean
when you say "a straighter wire gives truer harmonics."
</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT =
face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: =
12pt"></SPAN></FONT> </P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT =
face="Comic Sans MS"
color=navy size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans =
MS'">Baldwin
uses straightened and pre-cut wire simply as a manufacturing =
expediency.
These wires are purchased from Mapes to specification with each =
coming
bundled in a package of, perhaps, a hundred or so identical =
wires
labeled for a specific spot on a specific piano. These are then =
placed in
one of several tubes set up so the stringer can pull whichever =
specific wire
is needed in sequence as stringing =
progresses.</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT =
face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: =
12pt"></SPAN></FONT> </P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT =
face="Comic Sans MS"
color=navy size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans =
MS'">The grand
pianos are strung from standard 5-lb coils in rack held above the
piano.</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT =
face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: =
12pt"></SPAN></FONT> </P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT =
face="Comic Sans MS"
color=navy size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans =
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