<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD><TITLE>Re: Agraffes</TITLE> <META content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1" = http-equiv=Content-Type> <STYLE type=text/css>BLOCKQUOTE { MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0px; MARGIN-TOP: 0px } DL { MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0px; MARGIN-TOP: 0px } UL { MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0px; MARGIN-TOP: 0px } OL { MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0px; MARGIN-TOP: 0px } LI { MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0px; MARGIN-TOP: 0px } </STYLE> <META content="MSHTML 5.00.2919.6307" name=GENERATOR></HEAD> <BODY bgColor=#ffffff> <DIV>Thank you very much Ron for sharing your tool shape with us. Please = forgive my ignorance, but two more questions. On the far right side of your = drawing is the end profile of the tool. I don't understand the offset line = bisecting the circle - I suspect it is the cutting edge, but I guess I'm having a = hard time picturing it - is it more-or-less like a countersinking tool? = (I'm sure a grinder dude would know exactly what it is). Please explain. = Also, I do not understand exactly what a donut shape for the agraffe center is. = I eat 'em so quick I never quite notice their shape - and besides, shape would = not affect their taste! Do you go for a continuous arc through the agraffe = center, or do you maintain a 1/16" or so flat portion through the center as = Roger Jolly described? I have a 100-year-old Bechstein waiting for a rebuild in my = shop that has 88 of those little bad boys - they have been staring at me for more = than a year now and I have felt VERY intimidated (although I have tried not to = show it). Thanks big time!</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Terry Farrell<BR>Piano Tuning & Service<BR>Tampa, Florida<BR><A = href="mailto:mfarrel2@tampabay.rr.com">mfarrel2@tampabay.rr.com</A></DI= V> <DIV> </DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: = 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = black"><B>From:</B> <A href="mailto:sec@overspianos.com.au" = title=sec@overspianos.com.au>Overs Pianos</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A = href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org" title=pianotech@ptg.org>pianotech@ptg.org</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, April 13, 2001 = 5:45 AM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Agraffes</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV>Terry, Roger and list,</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV>Included below is a drawing of the agraffe cutter profile we have = been using for the past few years.</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV><IMG = src="cid:004a01c0c413$a1750f40$154b2041@tampabay.rr.com"></DIV> <DIV>We fax this drawing through to our local tool and cutter grinding = man, ordering four at a time (double ended). As Roger said earlier, you cut = from both sides of the agraffe. We use a small milling machine with depth = stop control, to ensure that we end up with a donut shape in the centre of = the agraffe. The easy way to check this is to cut a test agraffe in = half.</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV>Regards,</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV>Ron O</DIV> <DIV>-- <BR><BR>_________________________<BR><BR>Website:  http://www.overspianos.com.au<BR>Email:      = mailto:ron@overspianos.com.au<BR>_________________________</DIV></BLOCKQU= OTE></BODY></HTML>