<HTML>In a message dated 2/13/2002 7:15:29 PM Pacific Standard Time, davidlovepianos@earthlink.net writes: <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Subj:Re: David Love/Voicing tool Recommendation Date:2/13/2002 7:15:29 PM Pacific Standard Time From:<A HREF="mailto:davidlovepianos@earthlink.net">davidlovepianos@earthlink.net</A> Reply-to:<A HREF="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">pianotech@ptg.org</A> To:<A HREF="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">pianotech@ptg.org</A> Sent from the Internet           Joe& David</BLOCKQUOTE>           Thanks for your blunt and brutally honest opinion. It echos my sentiments for YEARS now. There's no pickin reason a hammer should need to be that hard and if it does there is something wrong. <>>>>>>>>>>>>Dale Erwin>>>>>>>> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"> Joe: I agree that I don't prefer this type of hammer, in all honesty I prefer Steinway style hammers when I can.  But there are times when a tensioned hammer is more appropriate for the instrument.  The way they are a fair amount of softening the shoulders is necessary to give some resilience, so I inject my elbows with pain killers and plow ahead.  Believe it or not, I believe the Renner people think that the Renner Blue is a softer hammer. David Love ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joseph Garrett" <joegarrett@earthlink.net> To: <pianotech@ptg.org> Sent: February 13, 2002 6:47 PM Subject: David Love/Voicing tool Recommendation > David and all, > If I had to do that much "pre-voicing" or even "voicing" to a set of > hammers, I wouldn't by a second set!!! We all need to start being more > "picky" and complain more to the hammer makers to get them to quit making > what I call "baby ball peen hammers"!!!!! Just my thought on the subject. > Having said that, if we are dealing with a particular piano with their > "Factory" installed BBs, then that's another matter. In that case, if we ALL > would talk to the company service rep., everytime we encounter this problem, > then maybe, just maybe, they might reconsider making a potentially great > sounding piano sound like the sounds of a destruction derby, everytime it's > played. Especially after the piano has been played for a few years. Feed > back from us is the only thing that will make a difference, but we need to > be vocal about it. I did that with the M&H rep and they now offer different > hammers of different densities. Finally, someone really is paying attention > and cares. My hat is off to M&H, on this account! > Regards, > Joe Garrett, RPT, (Oregon) ></BLOCKQUOTE> </HTML>