<HTML>Fellow whine-haters(wine = lovers?), I tuned a Seiler 180 grand this evening, and other than being all over t= he map tuning wise(it only needs to be tuned once every 3 years, said the de= aler), it should be a great piano.  The action functions superbly, the = whole package is put together quite nicely.  The problem is that it's o= ne of the noisiest pianos I've ever heard.   Some notes produce nasty rattle type vibrations that sound like loose ri= bs, a chasm in the soundboard, or a large ballbearing rolling around in ther= e.  The worst noises are banshee-like wines that are produced by the st= ring-length between the capo bar and the bar in front of the tuning pins. &n= bsp;If I could get away with putting some string braid in there, I would. &n= bsp; I know this type of noise has been the subject of much discussion lately= .  I haven't loosened the strings and tried to move the bars(don't even= know if I can move them).  Time for experimentation was limited due to= the necessity of a pitch raise.  I seem to recall someone talking abou= t filing the bottom of the capo bar to remove irregularities that might caus= e evil spirits to rise from the instrument.  Any recommendations? As a footnote, I thought I'd mention how sad it is that this potentially= excellent piano has ended up with someone who couldn't tell it was out of t= une, even though the temperament octave+ ranged from -25 cents to plus 6 cen= ts.  Maybe we're all in the wrong business. Dave Stahl</HTML>