<HTML>In a message dated 5/31/01 3:27:01 PM Central Daylight Time, dnereson@dimensional.com writes: <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Such as:  Where exactly is this "killer octave" everybody talks about?  I remember the term used in a Journal article a couple years ago, but had never heard of it before that.  I assume it's up in the mid to high treble somewhere.  (?)    --Dave Nereson, RPT, Denver </BLOCKQUOTE> Dave, where have you been? Those of us who talk all the time on the list have found a way to sleep while tuning pianos, so that we can spend all night reading and answering mail. We don't actually tune the piano, mind you. We just go through the motions. We've done it so often it's automatic. Try it. You'll be surprised how easy it is to do, and then even get paid for doing it. The killer octave(s) are octaves 6 and 7 on most pianos. Steinways have the most problems in this area, but other makes can give you an equal challenge. Willem </HTML>