<html> <body> Ross, I totally disagree! How else are you going to get them out. Do it slow, and MUCH more heat builds up! Avery At 01:08 PM 9/8/05, you wrote: <blockquote type=cite class=cite cite="">If you spin tuning pins out, you're going to scorch the holes in the block.  You don't want that. Ross White <dl> <dd>----- Original Message ----- <dd>From: <a href="mailto:pianotech@a440piano.net">William R. Monroe</a> <dd>To: <a href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">Pianotech</a> <dd>Sent: Sunday, September 04, 2005 7:39 PM <dd>Subject: Re: Removing tuning pins with the Milwaukee Drill <dd>Joe, <dd>So, does this imply that the friction that generates the heat simply doesn't <dd>have enough time to build up, vs. the slow removal, which may be slow, but <dd>long and drawn out, consequently producing more heat? <dd>Interesting...... <dd>Also, tried to email you about the keytop thing, but got rejected.  Anyway, <dd>I'll await receiving the keytop being sent to me first, and if it doesn't <dd>work, I'll let you know.  And, thanks. <dd>Respectfully, <dd>William R. Monroe <dd>----- Original Message ----- <dd>From: "Joe Garrett" <<a href="mailto:joegarrett@earthlink.net">joegarrett@earthlink.net</a> > <dd>To: "pianotech" <<a href="mailto:pianotech@ptg.org">pianotech@ptg.org</a>> <dd>Sent: Sunday, September 04, 2005 9:12 PM <dd>Subject: Removing tuning pins with the Milwaukee Drill <dd>Terry Peterson said: "I also would like to get opinions as to how fast, slow <dd>to remove them to <dd>avoid over-heating and/or scortching the pin block. I know the pins WILL get <dd>hot no matter what, (I tested this by using the very lowest rpm possible <dd>without stalling) but it seems to me that the main thing to avoid is <dd>"spinning" the pin in place when/if it stops rising outward during removal. <dd>I try to use lowest rpms to remove each pin, then releasing trigger when <dd>it's almost out, letting the drill slow to a stop at which point the pin <dd>drops out...ideally. thoughts? <dd>Terry, <dd>An interesting experiment: 1. Remove a tuning pin with a Brace and Bit; <dd>immediately test it for heat. (it will be hottern' hell a first touch.) 2. <dd>Remove a tuning pin with a Reversible Drill as slow as it will go. Test it <dd>for heat. (it will be hot and getting hotter.) 3. Remove a tuning pin with a <dd>Reversible drill running at/or around 600 RPM. Test it for heat. (It will <dd>only be warm, but will heat up rapidly as you hold it.DAMHIK!<G>) This <dd>phenomenon is kinda like Microwaving a spud.<G> The answer is spin them out <dd>as fast as you feel comfortable with. I usually remove a whole set in around <dd>15-20 minutes, using my 40 year old Wen Reversible Drill.<G> <dd>(It too, will spin the shop, if'n ya ain't careful!) <dd>Regards, <dd>Joe Garrett, R.P.T. <dd>Captain, Tool Police <dd>Squares R I <dd>_______________________________________________ <dd>pianotech list info: <a href="https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives"> https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives</a> </dl></blockquote></body> </html>